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Tuesday, April 21, 2026

Part 51: He's A (Music) Whore; Adventures in Playing As Much Music As Possible and Scenes Within a Scene

Disclaimer: Memory is a funny thing, and an elusive one. Meaning; I might have some of this wrong, as 1. My memory is not always accurate, like anyone and 2. It is from my perspective only. Any friends  who were there, feel free to correct me or add things I have missed. It helps! Also, no gossip on anyone here, it ain't about that. Personal details are on a surface level, and friends, girlfriends and others are re-named to respect their privacy. People in bands generally put their names out there on albums and in interviews anyway, and are not in the habit of staying anonymous, and therefore are named here. That said, anyone who is in the blog that wishes me not to use their name has only to ask.
Seattle Years Disclaimer: As I enter the Seattle years in this music blog, the above disclaimer goes double, because so much happened and there are so many details to cover in this 14 year period; so many shows, so many bands, so many friends and so much change in my life. As a result of this and the fact that the four of us who formed Treepeople found ourselves in the midst of a scene which blew up around us and attracted the eyes of the world just 2 years after our arrival, not to mention the 12 years I played music following that, I am bound to, hell, I will forget something.

This means two things: I will be coming back to entries and adding things to them over the months following publication, and, that the part of the above disclaimer where I ask for help from people in keeping me honest and in remembering things is crucial to them. I thank anyone ahead of time who was there, and, those who weren't there who have access to valid info, for helping me to correct errors in dates or chronology. Yes, I have the Internet, but many bands, scenes and things I will cover did not receive the attention I feel that they deserved and thus I will recall them mostly from memory, or rather, memories; mine and those of friends. Also, friends who were in bands which I do not happen to mention, please don't take it personally, just remind me. I have created a monster in undertaking this blog, one which I am determined to ride until the end!

Lastly, as mentioned, this scene gained national attention, and thus, needless to say and as we all know, many bands/people became famous, became rock stars, were/are admired by millions, etc and etc...This makes another part of my original disclaimer even more important. This memoir is intended to tell my story, from my perspective. I have no intention of creating a place where people can seek gossip about famous people, nor is it about 'name-dropping'. I write of my impressions of people, bands, and the Seattle scene from the '90s into the early 2000s. I protect those who are my friends fiercely because a symptom of being known is frequent intrusion into their lives beyond a level that I feel is acceptable. Thank you for indulging me this disclaimer.

A kind of disclaimer on Violent Green entries...In writing about the band Violent Green, at this time I am not in regular contact with Jenny O'lay, so I am not directly getting input from her, and, one member is no longer alive. In the case of the former, out of respect to O'lay, I am compelled to keep personal details at a high level, and in terms of Drew Quinlan (RIP, Brother), I am not in touch with any of his family to get approval of what I write about concerning him, as I did with my previously passed bandmate, Pat Schmaljohn (and thus felt better in writing about Pat) but I do not have the same access to family in Drew's case, so for that reason, out of respect for Drew and his family, I will also keep details at a high level. I won't make it cold and unpersonal, don't misunderstand me. Our dynamic as people was a huge part of the band. I guess what I am getting at is there are details that will remain private, to meet with high standards I strive to meet on this blog, even more so in light of this lack of input from the former band-mates of which I write. I hope I have achieved these standards. This  also brings up the point I always make, but it is important to reiterate; this is all from my perspective only, and of anyone whom I get input from.

Our odd relationships in Violent Green and the tensions present were one with the music, and I think, actually I know, that was a good thing, a necessary ingredient of this band, a band that forever reshaped how I thought about music, both listening to it and making it. I owe that to Drew and Jenny's brilliance and imperfectness, which made me feel okay about my own imperfections, (only to a degree, as my inner, self-critical voice was still in full effect) and it helped me realize that even I held brilliance, in my own way, when I played with them, warts and all. One thing I can confidently say is; we gave a fuck about the music. And that was because this was a highly musical band (most of the people who got what we were doing were musicians themselves) and thus I will focus much of my energy in terms of the VG entries talking about that; the music, it's influences and forms, and how the three of us and what we brought to the band from previous projects and the music we each loved, created, eventually, a rich tapestry. It is worth digging into this world O'lay spun with this bizarre, dark, poppy, goth, folksy punk music from Mars ~*

A silly Steve Fisk disclaimer: Steve Fisk is everywhere in this blog because, as you can/will see, we worked together a lot during this time, and we work together still. Deal with it! (Or, make it into a drinking game).

Wayne R. Flower - Music Whore

I came to refer to myself as a 'music whore' after I began to play music with anyone I could (I had some discretion, of course; I didn't play with people whose music I didn't like or with people I just didn't like). I didn't exactly seek these temporary projects out. I was just 'there' when people needed a drummer or bass player, mostly to fill in for when they were searching for one or the other in their bands. Over the years I was always branching out beyond the bands I was in, even though I was already fortunate to be in a few great bands. It is somewhat analogous to an 'addiction,' though a pretty benevolent one. I just loved (and still love) playing music so much that I wanted to do it as much as I possibly could. I would also say that it only helped me as a musician to play different kinds of music and have these experiences, plus listening to as much different kinds of music as I could, informed my playing and my increasing songwriting exercises, which led me to the musician I am today and to (as I am now comfortable calling myself) the songwriter I am today.

When I refer to 'branching out,' I mean the actual deliberate choices to form other bands for fun (as opposed to the above substitute whoredom, which I will get to). These came in the forms of short lived projects: Wonder Twin Powers, which consisted of myself on bass and a couple amazing musicians from the excellent '90s Seattle hardcore punk band in Seattle called Last Gasp, with Chris Tretton on drums and Fred Speakman on guitar. I played bass and sang, or was going to sing, once I had some lyrics!

What we started was barely a band, we only rehearsed a few times and never played a show, which is a shame, as what was beginning to form was pretty awesome and both of these guys were/are stellar players. The good news is I would later go on to play in different projects with each of them separately at different times (one of which was a reunited group that had inspired me to play in bands in the first place in the early '80s, more on all that later.)

Another band that only lasted for few rehearsal sessions was a punk/metal band with Doug Pack from Whipped and Decrepit on guitar and someone else on drums who I can't remember (to whom I apologize, it was so short lived, and I smoked a lot of 'tea' at the time) called 6 Feet Underwear. It's regretful that neither of these bands went anywhere, I think they would have been well received. I will also point out that I came up with both band names, and I consider them among the best/funnest I have come up with.  

A band/music project I was part of I already wrote about in a previous entry, Wayne Payne, a duo of myself and the husband at the time of my band-mate Kellie in Faintly Macabre. It was a unique idea in that it was just drums and vocals; Me on drums and Holden Payne on vocals. It was barely coming together when we pulled the plug on it as we were both too busy (I had 3 jobs, and his job was as my boss at the Egyptian Theater that I worked at then, plus, I was already in 3 bands, and Holden had two other bands himself, both included Kellie: The Wedgewood Bombers and Holden Payne and the Agonies) but I think it would have been rad.

The bands I substituted for until they found new members were: I played bass for a short time for the band 4 Hour Romona, so named after a long standing dry-cleaner in the neighborhood I lived in, Wallingford. 4 Hour Romona was fronted by the excellent musician and writer Vanessa Vaselka (also of Bell and The Pinkos - interestingly, her Wiki page doesn't mention 4 Hour Romona!) I have no memory of how I was asked to play in the band, but it was, as I have mentioned, intentionally short-lived, as I was just filling in until they found a permanent bass player. 

On drums was a former member of a beloved Seattle folk rock band that I dug called the Walkabouts, one Terri Moeller, who I came to be friends with for a time (and I write 'for a time' only as we fell out of touch in that natural way that happens in life). In retrospect, my busy bass playing style may not have been the best fit for the band, even though I toned it down quite a bit to try and adapt. Terri is a stellar drummer and person and Vanessa a good songwriter and performer and an impressive person in general, so no matter what, it was fun, and an honor. I played maybe 2 or 3 shows with them.

And, in the late '90s (so jumping ahead a bit, as I do) I also played drums in an alternative country band that was impressive called Cyclone Killers, again filling in until they could find a new drummer after their previous drummer quit the band.

This band was made up of some great musicians and people (one of whom was the partner of a coworker of my girlfriend's at the Art Institute of Seattle, Matt Cowgill, a very talented guitar player in his own right, that was how I even came to know these folks) David Dressel, Keith Lovik (who sang, wrote and switched around on instruments). The singer of Cyclone Killers, Lisa Duncan, had/has an amazing, powerful voice, and all the members were also good singers on backups. It was really fun to challenge myself and play a style of music that was very different than what I normally played.   

The 'Pine Street corridor' on Capitol Hill

The previously mentioned Egyptian Theater that I worked at was on Pine Street on Capitol Hill, a street my ex and I lived right off of not long before this period I am writing about. Between Boren Ave. and 12th Ave on Pine Street was a corridor that was coming alive after a hip burrito joint and bar called Bimbos Bitchin' Burritos and a hipster bar called Linda's were opened right near each other. 

Just one block further South and a block East was the Pike Street corridor on which there were a number of cool bars and coffee houses that people hung out and and played music at (and was where Violent Green's rehearsal space, The Chophouse, was located) and a lesbian bar called The Easy (where Drew's then girlfriend worked for a short time) so that corridor also fed the Pine St. corridor with people spilling over to go hang out over there as well. 

On the Pike corridor was the infamous bar The Comet Tavern (itself one door South of The Easy) and across the street was a bar and music venue called Moe's, now Nuemos (so clever, these hip kids!) which it still is at this writing (we played there on the 2018 Treepople reunion tour, see a song from that show here) and a bit further East was a two floor coffee house that sometimes had live music called Cafe Paradiso (it is still a coffee house at this writing called Cafe Vita) where I first saw the skinny, scrappy young up and coming band, Modest Mouse for the first time on the recommendation of Chris Takino, and I never doubted his recommendations, he never let me down, and he didn't this time, either).

Bimbo's Bitchin' Burritos became somewhat of a hangout for the folks who played in the same band 'cohort' I did and many of them ended up working there (including Kellie from one of the bands I was in, Faintly Macabre). It was a pretty cool setup, one side was the burrito restaurant and the other was a bar. Linda's was one good sized room divided in two by a half wall, with a pool table on one side. As mentioned in a recent entry, Kellie Payne and I shot pool here regularly. In fact, it was probably the bar I went to most during this time as The Egyptian Theater was right up the street, where she also worked with me. 

The famous Squid Row tavern (not far from Linda's) where Treepeople and so many other bands cut their teeth in the Seattle music scene was also on the Pine Street corridor (really it can be said it all started here for Treepeople, or at least it was where we started playing in front of the 'right people' and thus got us in in the door for better shows and reviews in magazines, etc. for Treepeople at Squid Row) but around the late '90s [incorrectly I listed it as during the late '80s; Typo!) it became a gay bar called Kincora's that didn't have live music. Up Records was located right across the street from Squid Row/Kincora's as well. 

Just down the street to the West a cool coffee house called Bauhaus (and is still there to this day). Right across the street from that place was a cool-short lived punk rock club that also opened in the late '90s called Uncle Rocky's.

As you can see, the Pine Street corridor became a bit of a hub for us all, in a way few other areas did, even though many of us no longer lived on Capitol Hill. 

It wasn't long after this that a pretty happening annual block party that started in the Pike corridor just off Broadway near The Comet that has continued. So it goes without saying (but I guess it goes without writing ; ) that this little patch of Capitol Hill in the mid to late '90s was thriving in terms of the overall music scene. 

The city of Seattle was filled with areas that were home to various music scenes or just pockets of venues and many more popped up in the mid '90s, post the Nirvana boom (and I think it is important to point this out, that while people outside the Seattle music scene think of/thought of it, understandably, as whole, it was in fact, like most city music scenes, made up of smaller, interlocking scenes); But Nirvana didn't define the Seattle music scene then; It never did in the minds of those of us bands who worked our asses of in that scene, and truth be told, Treepeople's defining album, Guilt, Regret, Embarassment, came out before Nirvana's defining album Nevermind, I feel compelled to point out. I had been playing in bands in the Northwest since 1983, over a decade before, and already I had been playing in bands in Seattle for 9 years, while all my band mates had their own histories stretching as far or near as far back in that city and the surrounding areas.

Wayne Goes to Film, art, Literature and Music School (of Life)

During this time, as I have mentioned, Jenny O'lay from Violent Green introduced me to great film makers, so I rented DVDs of the films of John Cassavettes, Andre Tarkovsky, and went back to the films of Orson Welles, including a restored version of the amazing film Touch of Evil on the big screen of one of the art house theaters that I worked at, which blew my mind, Fassbinder, Werner Herzog, among a number of others. I had always loved film, but now I was diving into films of the best of the best, and realizing how film itself incorporated all of the forms of art I not only enjoyed, but practiced myself often and frankly, well: music, writing and visual art. It was a renewed love affair that will last until I part this mortal coil.  

Chris Takino remained an influence in all of these areas as well until just before his untimely death that loomed around the corner; In a few short years, he would be gone by the same cancer that took my mother (Yeah, spoiler alert) after we fell out of touch, which of course bummed me out; It seemed to be a theme in my life, as previously mentioned; Losing people to death only a few years after getting to know them. 

As I well know, Death is an integral part of Life, but it seems to really have a thing for taking a lot of people from me in particular, including both my parents when I was a young man, and so many friends. It could also be said that ending up in the Seattle music scene in the '90s didn't help that, where even the people who became rock stars who died were close with my close friends. It was mentally and emotionally challenging, and often it was band mates who passed (all after I was in bands with them, by chance) another theme in my life. I miss them all terribly and learned so much from them all. 

This is a good place to stop in this entry. If you got this far, I thank you. 

Be well, be swell and give 'em hell.

Wayne Ray "Rhino" Flower II, 4/12/26 (Last updated 6/28/26)

Sunday, August 25, 2019

Music History Part 41 - The Rise of Up Records, Built to Spill and 'Indie Rock'

Disclaimer: Memory is a funny thing, and an elusive one. Meaning; I might have some of this wrong, as 1. My memory is not always accurate, like anyone and 2. It is from my perspective only. Any friends  who were there, feel free to correct me or add things I have missed. It helps! Also, no gossip on anyone here, it ain't about that. Personal details are on a surface level, and friends, girlfriends and others are re-named to respect their privacy. People in bands generally put their names out there on albums and in interviews anyway, and are not in the habit of staying anonymous, and therefore are named here. That said, anyone who is in the blog that wishes me not to use their name has only to ask.  

Seattle Years Disclaimer: As I enter the Seattle years in this music blog, the above disclaimer goes double, because so much happened and there are so many details to cover in this 14 year period; so many shows, so many bands, so many friends and so much change in my life. As a result of this and the fact that the four of us who formed Treepeople found ourselves in the midst of a scene which blew up around us and attracted the eyes of the world just 2 years after our arrival, not to mention the 12 years I played music following that, I am bound to, hell, I will forget something.

This means two things: I will be coming back to entries and adding things to them over the months following publication, and, that the part of the above disclaimer where I ask for help from people in keeping me honest and in remembering things is crucial to them. I thank anyone ahead of time who was there, and, those who weren't there who have access to valid info, for helping me to correct errors in dates or chronology. Yes, I have the Internet, but many bands, scenes and things I will cover did not receive the attention I feel that they deserved and thus I will recall them mostly from memory, or rather, memories; mine and those of friends. Also, friends who were in bands which I do not happen to mention, please don't take it personally, just remind me. I have created a monster in undertaking this blog, one which I am determined to ride until the end!


Lastly, as mentioned, this scene gained national attention, and thus, needless to say and as we all know, many bands/people became famous, became rock stars, were/are admired by millions, etc and etc...This makes another part of my original disclaimer even more important. This memoir is intended to tell my story, from my perspective. I have no intention of creating a place where people can seek gossip about famous people, nor is it about 'name-dropping'. I write of my impressions of people, bands, and the Seattle scene from the '90s into the early 2000s. I protect those who are my friends fiercely because a symptom of being known is frequent intrusion into their lives beyond a level that I feel is acceptable. Thank you for indulging me this disclaimer.


A kind of disclaimer on Violent Green entries...In writing about the band Violent Green, at this time I am not in contact with Jenny O'lay, so I am not directly getting input from her, and, one member is no longer alive. In the case of the former, out of respect to O'lay, I am compelled to keep personal details at a high level, and in terms of Drew Quinlan (RIP, Brother), I am not in touch with any of his family to get approval of what I write about concerning him, as I did with my previously passed bandmate, Pat Schmaljohn (and thus felt better in writing about Pat) but I do not have the same access to family in Drew's case, so for that reason, out of respect for Drew and his family, I will also keep details at a high level. I won't make it cold and unpersonal, don't misunderstand me. Our dynamic as people was a huge part of the band. I guess what I am getting at is there are details that will remain private, to meet with high standards I strive to meet on this blog, even more so in light of this lack of input from the former bandmates of which I write. I hope I have achieved these standards. This  also brings up the point I always make, but it is important to reiterate; this is all from my perspective only, and of anyone whom I get input from.

Our odd relationships and their tensions were one with the music, and I think, actually I know, that was a good thing, a necessary ingredient of this band, a band that forever reshaped how I thought about music, both listening to it and making it. I owe that to Drew and Jenny's brilliance and imperfectness, which made me feel okay about my own imperfections, (only to a degree, as my inner, self-critical voice was still in full effect) and it helped me realize that even I held brilliance, in my own way, when I played with them, warts and all. One thing I can confidently say is; we gave a fuck about the music. And that was because this was a highly musical band (most of the people who got what we were doing were musicians themselves) and thus I will focus much of my energy in terms of the VG entries talking about that; the music, it's influences and forms, and how the three of us and what we brought to the band from previous projects and the music we each loved, created, eventually, a rich tapestry. It is worth digging into this world O'lay spun with this bizarre, dark, poppy, goth, folksy punk music from Mars ~ * 

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Bad Dog, No Bagel

I previously mentioned I had started a new job around '93 at a hip bagel cafe that was beginning to expand, called 'Spot Bagel.' The 'spot' part of the name came from their mascot, a dalmation, and eventually led to the slogan, 'Bad dog, No Bagel,' as a play on 'Bad Cop, No Donut,' and which became a T-shirt and effectively the uniform. In the beginning of Spot Bagel's history, a uniform would be anathema.

It was a pretty low key business, the vibe of which reminded me of health food stores in the '70s. Spot started with a cafe located in the Wallingford Neighborhood of Seattle, right in the heart of it, across the street from the iconic Food Land store (which eventually became a QFC store, who replaced the 'Foodland' sign of the previous tenants with a sign that said 'Wallingford' because the residents of the neighborhood were losing their shit, not because a small business was being crushed - though some were in that camp - but because the sign was so important to them, and marked something for them - to me this scenario represented how Seattlites, most anyway, have their priorities all fucked up - a similar scene played out when Tully's Coffee bought the iconic building that housed Rainier Beer and people were freaking out about the giant red 'R' sign going away - causing Tully's to replace it with a giant green 'T,' which only served to piss people off even more).


Spot Bagel was started by a young, hipster Jewish guy named Jay Glass. I interacted with him a few times over the time I was at Spot. Seemed like a decent guy. He made the decisions that were later very bad for the company, but it was the people he brought in that really messed it up, in my opinion, and ultimately led to its closure in 1996, here is a blurb about its closure: http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/archive/?date=19960801&slug=2342067)


I interviewed with a guy I will call Luis outside a new Spot Bagel cafe being opened up, the first of many planned, located in the Newmark Building, one block East of the famous Pike Place Market downtown. The Newmark was a brand new building that had gone up in what seemed like just a couple of months (and how fast it fell apart confirms it couldn't have been more). I hadn't done a high number of official interviews. 

At that time in the US, and, for young folks especially, it was a lot who you knew that got you hired at a job, a good word got you in, like how I got the construction job just after moving to Seattle with zero construction experience. I was a little nervous about the interview, but I kinda didn't give a fuck if I got this job or not, had steeled myself for a slog of pavement pounding. In retrospect, I would have easily gotten any number of service jobs, as the city's job economy was strong, most specifically in service jobs (to serve all the self-important new money people flocking there in white flight from Oakland and other urban centers, they clutched their pearls and bought property like mad, driving up the cost of living in a wave that has only increased to the point of no return. Seattle may as well be San Francisco, now). 

My indifference came off as confidence, and Luis offered me the job on the spot (no pun intended, but I'll take it) and when I said' "I'll take the job," he seemed stunned. "You will?" 

Oh how I wished that I had remembered this little demonstration of what self-assuredness (not a word, but should be - and yet 'self-absurdness' is?) gets you, but really, to be fair to Young Wayne, he had no fucking clue it came off as confidence, just as he didn't understand this fact for most things.

I will come back to Spot Bagel, as it was an important thread to my increasingly busy and complex life. Shit fell apart there in a spectacular way that now at least makes a good story. 

I found a photo of the café and I had forgotten  how Jetsons and neo-Seattle modern it was! This was where I worked everyday, and while the café area itself looked like a sci-fi film set, the kitchen was pretty standard.

Photo retrieved from: 

https://twitter.com/y2k_aesthetic/status/1292940002322599937/photo/1

 
The rise of Up Records and 'Indie Rock'

In 1993, 1994, the 'indie rock' scene (so dubbed as most bands that fell under the title were on independent, rather than major labels, though that quickly changed somewhat post Nirvana in the aforementioned 'major label feeding frenzy'), Chris Takino's and co-founder Rich Jensen's label (who had been a musician with early releases on Sub Pop and K Records and a productive music enthusiast since 1981) Up Records arose as a much needed alternate to the music then dominating the Seattle scene, where the majority of visible bands were on Sub Pop, most of whom at the time were a derivation of 70s hard rock with a splash of punk. In fact, Chris first approached Sub Pop about putting out a Built to Spill lp and they encouraged him to put it out himself.

The Up roster included bands/artists like Modest Mouse, Edsel, Mike Johnson, Juned, Caustic Resin, (do yourself a favor and clear some time to sit back and listen to the epic 1995 Up Records double LP release by them called Fly Me to the Moon - Well, what are you waiting for? At least look it up on You Tube!) Satisfact, Butterfly Train, Built to Spill, Duster (one of my fav bands at the time, still love their stuff, it stands up), Land of the Loops, acoustic guitarist and songwriter Rick Sabo, and of course, Violent Green, from
where the whole thing launched, and on and on, all very different bands (and note the above list is off the top of my head, mostly.)


Up Records 17th release in 1995 - Artwork by Jeff Hogan

The bands of the label represented what was still true to the idea of the roster being simply bands Chris Takino loved. Luckily for Seattle, his taste was pretty fucking good. Go through the catalogue and you will see what I am on about. It should be noted with these indie labels, there was no exclusivity in the contracts, or if ever there was, not for long, thank goodness - for instance the Treepeople got our best record Guilt, Regret, Embarrassment back from Toxic Shock Records in 5 years, and now it is re-released on K Records. My point though, is that a number of these bands were also putting out records on other indie labels, for instance, the bands Satisfact and Modest Mouse both had released records on K simultaneously or before/after doing records with Up. One time I asked Calvin Johnson what he thought of Up Records and he smiled a wry little smile and half-jokingly said, "Not bad, but tell Chris to stop stealing my bands!"

The first office for Up Records was a one room office in the Terminal Sales Building, the same building Sub Pop was in (which made sense as Chris worked there still for a time, and of course Sub Pop I assume helped him get the space.) As I remember it, Chris was able to quit his job fairly soon after starting the label, but I could be wrong about that. When Up was in the Terminal building was the period when I stopped by the most often, I think because it was close to where I worked. Chris had assembled a small crew of folks to work for him. I remember every time I visited it was kind of exciting, too, to think that one of our own started a label, that the label started to put out a little record by an obscure band I was in and had begun to get a lot of attention. This makes sense, because Chris was one the most connected people I have ever met in the alternative/indie rock world, and one of the smartest. 

Terminal Sales Building, Seattle

It was also during the Terminal Sales Building period of Up that they put out Built to Spill's second lp, the wonderfully charming and introspective 'There's Nothing Wrong With Love.' This record made an instant splash, and put Doug on the map, and on a path to becoming an indie rock icon. That may not have been the goal for him or for Up, but it inevitably happened. Right place, right time.

I don't remember a time when Built to Spill shows in Seattle weren't packed. The guy who just wrote songs, showed up for Treepeople rehearsals and did little else in the band was gone. In his place was an enthusiastic, thoughtful and professional musician/songwriter, and leader of a band. It seemed in retrospect that the transformation was overnight, but I am sure this isn't true. The fact is since we met him, when he was 16, he slowly began to realize the potential of playing music for more than just a hobby [Then Future, now Now Wayne says; 'That's ridiculous, we all knew this pretty quickly, Yours, soon to be Past Wayne']. In one interview not long after this period he talked about how seeing the punk thing and what we, State of Confusion, and others were doing, he realized that you could do it without much money (or even talent, and he had plenty of that, anyway). Drive was the key thing, and he developed a drive over time. It was a drive, not to be 'the next big thing' or a rock star, but to get his music out to as many people as possible, and to play in front of as many people as possible.

The first incarnation of the band was pretty much a project, and he had intended to rotate line-ups on a regular basis. This line-up for
There's Nothing Wrong With Love was essentially Farm Days, his first band, with Brett Nelson on bass and Andy 'Capps' on drums (RIP).

I hung out in the studio with them when they recorded the record and made a couple minor contributions, which hilariously led to people thinking that I at some point was in Built to Spill, some people still think that. Pretend that was said by our president, that is, it is not true. I added a silly little guitar lead with my fingers on the song 'Big Dipper' that was played through one of those transistor radio sized practice amps called, adorably, 'Marshas' (a play on the Marshall brand of amps, by far the amp of choice for any rock guitarist - in retrospect, it's a little sexist!) Listen below - my little silly part comes in at the 2:36 mark.



I also did the voice after the joke ending songs, which are great, Doug wrote little diddies in different styles of music and packaged them as a sort of label promo sampler of different bands, there is a punk song ("...Kick you in the head/Gonna kick you in the head!...) and a country song ("...A man needs a woman/And a woman needs a man to love/Gonna hold on to you/My Midnight Star..."), etc. At the end of all this there is a weird voice I did that says "Look for the record with me on the cover!" When I was recording it, I had a mental block and kept adding 'Just' at the beginning. Doug kept correcting me through the talkback mic (the mic producers and engineers use to talk to artists between takes) and we were all cracking up. For inspiration for the voice, Doug told me to imagine what the voice of one of the artist Mike Scheer's little surreal creatures in his drawings might sound like. It was a hell of a lot of fun. But I was never in Built to Spill! They also used my bass rig on the album Perfect From Now On and Doug borrowed my Fender Jazz Noel Redding edition bass for Keep it Like a Secret as well. I guess I went from contributor to equipment supplier! I was happy to do it, of course.


It can't be overstated how much releasing 'There's Nothing Wrong With Love' put Up on the map, as much as it did for Doug. It was universally well-received and praised by all, and rightly so, I feel. There is nothing else quite like it in all of the BTS catalogue (or frankly anywhere else). It retained the innocence of Farm Days while bringing in stories from childhood that set the stage for the more epic, somewhat more grim lp Perfect From Now On. Listen to Twin Falls, Idaho and then listen to the opening track from PFNO, Randy Described Eternity to see what I am on about.

[And I am gravely remiss here, but I neglected to mention that this LP was produced by the very talented producer, young and up-and-coming Phil Ek, who would go on to produce many fine records, I missed this out of sloppiness? Laziness? Distractedness? Fuck, who knows - Absolutely no offense meant, Brother Phil - more on Mr. Ek later, I assure you]


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Built to Spill's 2nd LP, on Up Records

Captiol Hill's Pine Street Scene

Eventually Up Records moved to Capitol Hill on Pine, right on the other side of the block from the apartment I used to live in on Summit. This strip of Pine (from about Boren to Broadway) was quickly becoming the center of a scene as there were hip businesses opening there. There was Linda's Tavern, a cool, dark bar with pool tables and booths, I think it is still there? Also, Bimbo's Bitchin' Burrito Kitchen became a center for many in the music scene, cheap eats, open late, and they had booze (and eventually opened a bar next door). A few of my friends, all musicians, worked at Bimbos. A record store would pop up here, a coffee house there. Bauhaus Coffee, one of my favorite haunts a few years after this time period of which I write, was toward the bottom of the hill of Pine, just before you head downtown.



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Bimbos Bitchin' Burrito Kitchen  




Linda's Tavern, Seattle

Meanwhile, back in the world of Violent Green, we went to Reciprocal Studios
toward the end of 1994, soon to be bought by Avast! studio owner Stuart Hallerman and producer John Goodmanson, and thus was renamed John & Stu's. Goodmanson would also engineer this very album, that is the album I keep hinting at, the album Eros. I promise I will actually write about it next time. I don't want it to be the old theater writing technique Orson Welles once described, where all the characters mention "Mr. Wu," in reverent tones throughout the play, but the audience never sees him, so that by the time he walks on stage, he has been so built up that his entrance causes 'Ooohs' and 'Ahhhs.' Or hell, maybe I do want that.

It is important to keep in mind when I zero in like this, to one label and one band and a handful of label-mates, whilst all this was going on, that the punk scenes I wrote of in previous entries (see entries #s 28-30) had grown and morphed as well, and, most importantly, were still going strong. Members of the aforementioned bands of our friends, like Whipped, began to play in bands like Decrepit (Guitarist/singer/songwriter Doug Pack of Whipped singing) and Shug (Paula Sen, bass player/singer/songwriter of Whipped playing guitar, songwriting and singing) and most of the bands mentioned in said Seattle punk entries were still at it in '94, bands that had started before Treepeople were still blazing trails, like Olympia's Fitz of Depression (formed 1987).
The Olympia ('Oly') scene was thriving, and it wasn't just K Records bands, there were bands on friendly rival label Kill Rock Stars as well, like one of my favorite bands ever, Unwound, who was relentlessly touring at this time with their new album, also my favorite, 'New Plastic Ideas.' Also on Kill Rock Stars, newly formed in 1994, was Sleater Kinney, who would also capture the attention of the world soon. There was new stuff bubbling, feminist rock movements out of Olympia like riot grrrl were in full bloom, and the whole Pacific Northwest was rising too, like the Portland, Oregon scene, which had bands like Quasi, Pond, Hazel, Crakerbash, Heatmiser (whose member Elliott Smith was quietly crafting brilliant, sad songs of his own that would soon go out into the world) Pink Martini, and so many others, Seattle had  fun punk bands like Gas Huffer featuring legend Tom Price on guitar, who were bouncing around, playing clubs. And dozens and dozens of bands were popping up, sometimes homegrown but mostly reloctaed out-of-towners. Nirvana was still on top (but sharing the limelight with Pearl Jam and Soundgarden and Alice in Chains, the first to break), as you can see, things were exploding in indie rock in the NW, but the reluctant pied piper of the movement, Kurt Cobain...he wasn't doing so well mentally and managing his addictions at the beginning of 1994. 

I remember working at Spot Bagel later when I heard on the radio that Kurt Cobain had almost Od'ed and gone into a coma in Italy in March (incidentally, the day after my 28th birthday). And I remember thinking, "Uh oh," and sort of bookmarking it. And then the woman asked me to spread the butter on the toasted bagel I was preparing for her more lightly, to scrape some off. "I don't even want to know it's there," she said matter-of-factly. 



Next time: A final Treepeople album fueled by Scott Schmaljohn without Doug (a portent of things to come for Scott), Wayne starts playing drums in a cool band called Faintly Macabre, is also recruited into The Halo Benders, our brother Kurt decides it's no longer worth it anymore, rattling the scene, and opening the doors for Ol Death to steal even more people away~~~~                                           
                               
 

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Tuesday, November 22, 2016

Music History, Part 32 - Guilt, Regret, Embarrasment - Part II

Disclaimer: Memory is a funny thing, and an elusive one. Meaning; I might have some of this wrong, as 1. My memory is not always accurate, like anyone and 2. It is from my perspective only. Any friends  who were there, feel free to correct me or add things I have missed. It helps! Also, no gossip on anyone here, it ain't about that. Personal details are on a surface level, and friends, girlfriends and others are re-named to respect their privacy. People in bands generally put their names out there on albums and in interviews anyway, and are not in the habit of staying anonymous, and therefore are named here. That said, anyone who is in the blog that wishes me not to use their name has only to ask.

Seattle Years Disclaimer: As I enter the Seattle years in this music blog, the above disclaimer goes double, because so much happened and there are so many details to cover in this 14 year period; so many shows, so many bands, so many friends and so much change in my life. As a result of this and the fact that the four of us who formed Treepeople found ourselves in the midst of a scene which blew up around us and attracted the eyes of the world just 2 years after our arrival, not to mention the 12 years I played music following that, I am bound to, hell, I will forget something.

This means two things: I will be coming back to entries and adding things to them over the months following publication, and, that the part of the above disclaimer where I ask for help from people in keeping me honest and in remembering things is crucial to them. I thank anyone ahead of time who was there, and, those who weren't there who have access to valid info, for helping me to correct errors in dates or chronology. Yes, I have the Internet, but many bands, scenes and things I will cover did not receive the attention I feel that they deserved and thus I will recall them mostly from memory, or rather, memories; mine and those of friends. Also, friends who were in bands which I do not happen to mention, please don't take it personally, just remind me. I have created a monster in undertaking this blog, one which I am determined to ride until the end!


Lastly, as mentioned, this scene gained national attention, and thus, needless to say and as we all know, many bands/people became famous, became rock stars, were/are admired by millions, etc and etc...This makes another part of my original disclaimer even more important. This memoir is intended to tell my story, from my perspective. I have no intention of creating a place where people can seek gossip about famous people, nor is it about 'name-dropping'. I write of my impressions of people, bands, and the Seattle scene from the '90s into the early 2000s. I protect those who are my friends fiercely because a symptom of being known is frequent intrusion into their lives beyond a level that I feel is acceptable. Thank you for indulging me this disclaimer. 


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GRE continued...

 

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'If you love Dinosaur Jr., you'll like the Treepeople.'






Treepeople had a number of musical influences at the time of recording 'GRE', many of which I have mentioned; Dinosaur Jr., David Bowie (as evidenced by the cover of his song 'Andy Warhol' on 'GRE', which I will discuss later in this entry) The Replacements, The Flaming Lips, Screaming Trees, Minutemen, Black Flag, Descendents (and really, most of the SST label's bands) TAD, The Smiths, Fugazi (a band whose song 'Bad Mouth' we covered) not to forget the bands that morphed into Fugazi; Rites of Spring and Minor Threat, Sonic Youth and also The Velvet Underground (a band very dear to us, especially to Doug and Pat) The Clash, Butthole Surfers, Hüsker Dü and many more, including our Boise brothers and sisters, Dirt Fishermen and Caustic Resin and our Seattle brethren, The Purdins, and let us not forget The Pixies. This list is off the top of my head, so I know I am missing a ton of bands here (a call to my fellow Brother Trees to remind me of any) but I think it is a pretty good representative slice. 

I have a memory after 'GRE' came out of having a conversation with a friend (who would later play bass in one of the many versions of Treepeople that arose after I quit) where he complained about the guitars being so loud in the mix during the leads. I reminded him that this was how Dinosaur Jr. records were mixed, knowing he was a fan of them. He nodded and considered this. It is a curious thing how we tend to judge bands that our friends have formed much differently than the bands we like whom we don't know personally. I can imagine friends of Gibby Haynes telling him, as feedback about his band Butthole Surfers, "I dunno, Man, this shit is pretty WEIRD!" or friends of Thurston Moore asking him, "Are you sure those guitars are tuned right?" 

As I have mentioned, Dinosaur Jr. was a big influence on the band, and on Doug specifically (as an aside, Doug would end up touring a bit with Dinosaur Jr. years later in his band Built to Spill). And inevitably, there were many comparisons made between Treepeople and Dinosaur Jr., especially after 'GRE' came out. I think this is a mostly fair comparison. They are both bands that are driven by guitars, with distorted leads winding around, and a full-on rhythm section pounding away, melancholy singing and lyrics about personal politics. That said, I wouldn't say the music is that similar. One joke (which I may be repeating here, if so, forgive me) that we had as a band in response to all the Dinosaur Jr. comparisons was a tongue-in-cheek tag line; 'If you love Dinosaur Jr., you'll like the Treepeople.' We never actually used it, of course.

I reached out to folks on Facebook here on the blog to tell me, if it were true, why the album 'GRE' was important to them, but the response has not been strong, and the people who have told me this before are no longer in my life. I didn't want the publishing of this entry to be contingent on waiting for more responses [After this writing I did receive some, see the end of the next entry on 'GRE', Part 33]. I did receive some great stories about Pat from a college mate of his which I have permission to use, and which I will share later in the tale. I also received an email from Pat's ex that is about about 'GRE', but more from a different perspective, and an important one, one about being part of the extended Treepeople family and seeing the album as representing her life at that point in time and space, and, about all the people behind the scenes of any band who don't get a lot of due credit. She was a support for Pat (at times financially) and often lived with a young son (a really sweet kid who is now a nice man) in the homes where we rehearsed and as a result had to deal with a host of annoying and troublesome situations which went along with that. I now can see how, as Anna points out, this all was true of Treepeople and is true of any band or creative project.  

People tend to focus all on the music when thinking of a band, I think that is normal, since that is what a band does; make music, and is the reason why anyone gives a shit about them in the first place, but some folks tend to build up bands beyond what they really are into a kind of mythos (ironically, one surrounding losers who got their revenge by getting all the attention and praise after being beat up and ridiculed in their awkward youth at schools across the world and much of that attention and praise came from the very people who ridiculed them).

Here is Anna's email in full (published with her permission);

"...For myself GRE is my favorite Treepeople recording and hallmarks a time of my life in Seattle that was creative, tumultuous, emotional, uncertain, and all the other hurdles that come from being 20 something as a small fish in a big pond.

At that time I was living with Pat, Scott, and ____
[Scott's then girlfriend] on Capitol Hill.  My studio was underneath the stairwell of our apartment on Harvard st. and  also where I landed a job at a gallery down by the market and learned how to become a working artist.


I do have to say that as a girlfriend of a band member my role could seem insignificant however I did spend an extraordinary amount of time, energy and money making sure everyone had enough beer, food and the emotional support for a man who constantly questioned his existence and his relationship to those around him. Totally my choice.


There’s no doubt Treepeople was an extraordinary 
band and yet I think it’s truly important to give credit to all the people working behind any band.  Sound and light technicians, roadies, van drivers, girlfriends, emotional trauma rescuers, crash house hosts ect, ect. [sic].


What truly resonates with GRE- Guilt- Regret- Embarrassment : True feelings of growing up that diminish with age and hopeful wisdom.

Sorry about the mop...' [this last bit is an inside joke, sort of].

VU to the TP 











 

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Treepeople were like The Velvet Underground in one respect at least; we became much more popular after the band was gone, more so than when we were around. A lot of that, I think, has to do with the fact that Doug would become a pretty well-known, almost iconic figure (through no intention of his own, really) in the indie rock scene, which he continues to be, and people began to seek out his music history. A lot of it is that Treepeople was a band, also like The Velvet Underground (don't get me wrong, we are talking about WAY different scales here) that became, for many years, quietly influential on a number of bands to come, bands like Sunny Day Real Estate, Foo Fighters, Modest Mouse and one of my favorite bands, Team Dresch (though to be fair, some members of this band were playing pop-punk in bands earlier than and contemporary with Treepeople, like Hazel and Danger Mouse - no not that Danger Mouse, this was years before them - and one member even played for a short time in Dinosaur Jr., but in the album 'Personal Best' by Team Dresch, I do hear some TP influence (on a related note, Team Dresch is playing here in Portland this January and I have a ticket! Very excited!) [Since this writing, I attended the aforementioned Team Dresch show, which was amazing, and, I got validation for my view here, in that they played a Smiths cover 'Big Mouth Strikes Again' that Treepeople did (we played it when I was in the band, and the line-up after I quit recorded and released it on the new EP half of the double EP 'Something Vicious for Tomorrow', which also included the previously released ep 'Time Whore') and Donna Dresch said it was based on "...the Treepeople version. I love the Treepeople version." and also, when I posted something on Facebook about the show, Donna Dresch commented, "...You can probably tell, but we channel Treepeople ALL THE TIME!" The remaining Treefolk are honored by this]. I am sure there are those who disagree with this perspective, or think me vain to even suggest it. So it goes. 

Guilt, Regret, Embarassment - A song-by-song look through the Waynefilter (note: I am not going to discuss every song from the original Toxic Shock release which included several 7 inch records as bonus tracks, as, if I do so, it will be way too fucking long, and it will be that anyway without adding them). ~ Artwork above each song title is from cut-ups taken from the original cover of 'GRE' done by Mike Scheer ~

 

No Doubt - Written by Doug Martsch & Treepeople
I think that this song is among the quintessential TP songs, as it has all of the hallmarks of what we were doing musically; guitar gymnastic hi-jinx! Angst-wrought, sad lyrics about self-delusional people! Fast, almost hardcore tempos, a dramatic, drawn out instrumental outro, and...I honestly feel weird coming up with something in this voice for my drums, um, here goes...Galloping, guitar-led drum rhythms! Eh, I will stop there [waits until no one is looking, quietly backs out of room]. 

 
Andy Warhol - Written by David Bowie, adapted by Treepeople - One thing I liked about Treepeople was that we chose cover songs carefully, and I think we chose wisely as well (excluding, of course, the early days when we played the over-covered songs 'Sweet Jane' by The Velvet Underground and 'Wild World' by Cat Stevens, which we called 'Cat Scratch Stevens', a play on the Ted Nugent song, 'Cat Scratch Fever'. Such clever boys!) We also did covers very rarely, and only if they fit us as a band (Doug has continued this cover song strategy in Built to Spill). The song 'Andy Warhol' was perfect for TP, especially the guitar parts, the walking lead lines, the stalls and pauses, and the range of the singing. I was proud of myself for writing such appropriate drum parts to a song that had no drums (the original is only Bowie and an acoustic guitar and back-up vocals here and there). The album it is on, 'Hunky Dory', was a very important record to us, Doug turned me on to it and I listened to it weekly for many years. The combination of songs that were in one minute whimsical and the next melancholy drew me in. I also think in retrospect that it was kind of a ballsy move, or shall I say clitorisy move, to have the second song be a cover tune that was immediately cross-faded in from the first, in-your-face cut.



GRE (Guilt, Regret, Embarrassment) - Written by Doug Martsch & Treepeople - The title track, obviously, but only because the wording made for a very appropriate Treepeoplesque sentiment, not from some over-arching theme, at least not intentionally, but really, it ended up being one anyway. Doug recorded a version of this song on his Fostex cassette 4-track machine (the 'sketchbook' of choice among songwriters & low-fi home-recorders then) during the time when he and I lived next door to each other and hung out together while we each did our own thing (as discussed in a previous entry) and occasionally making weird 4-track songs together. Doug often did sketches, in this way, of what would later become Treepeople songs, a song-writing practice he still employs, (though it is now done with a home studio). I have a tape we made with the 'GRE' sketch and others, including a song Doug wrote to the Shel Silverstein childrens' rhyme called 'Hugowar' and a couple song sketches of mine which Doug played on, and last but not least a sketch for the song that ended up on the Treepeople ep, 'Something Vicious For Tomorrow' called 'Ad Campaigns', though the very first version of this song was a random recording done at Tad Doyle's rehearsal space with me on drums, Tad on bass and Doug on guitar (wish I still had that tape!). All these songs, (minus the aforementioned original version of the recording with Tad) and more are on a tape called 'Doug's Unemployed 4-Track Tape'. It is a pretty cool documentation of the time. I may upload some of the tunes later. I have digressed! So the song 'GRE', well, it is definitely a good example of the blending hardcore and pop punk music styles we employed, especially the drum parts. It also showcases the 'jigsaw' or 'dueling guitars' descriptions of how Scott and Doug's guitar parts fit together so oddly, despite being so incredibly different. Pat's bass playing is superb on this song, he is basically playing a hardcore bass part slightly modified.  



Lost - Written by Scott Schmaljohn & Treepeople - This song is one of the more unique Treepeople songs we played during this original line-up. I like how it has a long, mellow intro and then gracefully transitions into a more up-tempo part, and from there goes into a more sinister sounding part for a few measures, then back into the upbeat parts. The lyrical theme to 'Lost' was one that Scott would visit a few times in Treepeople songs, and later in songs he wrote for his bands that followed (Stuntman and The Hand - a band active still, a great band, check them out); Basically that theme was, a small city boy living in the big city; "...It's/So easy to be/Just another face/And it's so easy to get lost..." and '...Wondering/If anybody cares...' Per a recent correspondence with Scott about 'GRE' he had some thoughts on this; "...The thing I remember most about the GRE days, were adjusting to our new Seattle surroundings, working crappy jobs...We all sacrificed so much to be in Seattle, a brave new world with many new big city challenges..." and about the song, 'Lost', he wrote  "... I also remember writing "lost" one of my songs, which took me weeks to figure out how to play and sing the parts together...That song was about the loneliness of the big city and the small town folks we were...Where do we fit in to this city was my question. We were tiny fish in the big city of so many sharks..." I think it was important to have songs about this perspective on this record, because it was certainly a feeling we all had in our own ways right after moving to Seattle. Scott's lyrics in general tended to be more political (in some ways, this was a holdover from his days writing hardcore punk songs in SOC), such as the 'GRE' song, 'Chunks of Milk' (see below for more on that tune) and about the daily, often thankless grind of being a low income, working class person thrown into a city with so many people competing for everything. Even grocery shopping was a whole other world than what we were used to, and we soon learned that you had to plan things with lots of buffer time because of this, or in case there was a shooting that shut down 4 city blocks, or a transit strike, or any number of things people deal with in bigger cities on a regular basis that were still pretty new to us. Scott's voice has a raw emotional quality that expresses this sentiment well, and is similar to Shane MacGowan's voice (the singer/songwriter for the Irish band, The Pogues). Musically, Scott's songs pushed me into new, more complex and nuanced territory as a drummer, and also freed up Doug on guitar to do even more zany antics, which he usually dove into with gusto. This song is no exception to that. [How oh how could I write of this song and not talk about the amazing sections where Pat sings, in a voice that emobied Pat to a tee, he sings/asks, in the voice of authority that constantly harrassed anyone different, and, exemplifiying the feeling in a city where people are pushed away from some official event or from the grounds of some property by police or security; "...What are you doing here?/Why are you standing there?..."]


Transitional Devices - Written by Scott Schmaljohn & Treepeople - Obviously, this song is the strongest example on 'GRE' (and probably of any of the Treepeople songs) of an homage to the hardcore days of our previous band State of Confusion. I remember when writing the drum parts that I was concerned I wouldn't be able to play the beats fast enough (a flashback to my short stint trying to play drums for State of Confusion) but I pulled it off and found a happy medium. 'Transitional Devices' stands on its own for this reason, in that it is one of two songs that are played at that fast of a meter, the other also being a Scott Schmaljohn song from the early TP days, 'Fishbasket'. The lyrics follow Scott's standard themes (laid out above). This song is big and brash and in your face, as it should be. The guitars are over the top, as they should be. And, as mentioned above, writing drum parts for Scott's songs challenged me in new ways, especially this tune, and, incidentally, added something new to my drum vocabulary that I would continue to use (and in fact just used in a song on a recently recorded but unreleased - at this writing, anyway, it is coming soon! - lp for the band I currently play drums in, Commonauts) on the drum only stall/breakdown parts in the song, a sort of stuttery tom fill in which I alternate from floor tom to rack tom to snare, rapidly back and forth; buddabittabuddabittabuddabittabuddabitta...if that makes any sense (probably not, maybe if you listen to the song, see link below).
Hear song: Transitional Devices

 
Pity - Written by Doug Martsch & Treepeople - This is one of my favorite Treepeople songs, and, like 'No Doubt', I think it is another one of the 'quintessential' TP songs. It is also by far the saddest TP song, and one of a handful that are based on actual events or an actual person. The story I remember from Doug was that it was based on a woman he saw at the laundry mat he used on Capitol Hill in Seattle, and I had also seen her around the Hill. She was a white woman in her 60s with most of her chin missing, either from an accident or she was that way since birth. I see the lyrics as a reflection by Doug on the ultimately selfish nature of pity, in that he saw her and felt pity for her but then felt weird about pitying her, because she didn't need his pity, she was living her life and doing just fine, and also, he was self-conscious about her noticing his pity; '...I can't meet her eyes/For fear she'll know/What I am thinking/And then I'll bruise her/With my pity..."...' I think that this is one of Doug's best songs, and part of why I feel that way is that the phrasing of the lyrics fits in so well with the music. I also feel that it is some of my best drumming on the record. I wrote the parts more to the singing than I usually did, probably for the reasons stated above about how it fit with the music. This is one of the rare songs where the guitars pretty much synced in a more traditional way, at least until the 'patented,' dramatic, drawn out instrumental outro. [I would also add that, second only to the TP song 'Important Things' on our first 7 inch record, 'Pity' is the most influenced by Dinosaur Jr.]


(I'm Gonna) Miss You (When You're Dead) - Written by Doug Martsch & Treepeople - I have mentioned two songs that I think are among the 'quintessential' Treepeople songs, but I would have to say this one is the quintessential Treepeople tune by a fair margin, so much so that if someone told me I only had one song to play them to give them a broad idea of how Treepeople sounded at this time, I would play them (I'm Gonna) Miss You (When You're Dead). The intro to the song is pretty blistering, but it isn't hardcore, it has a different, emotional quality to it. By this time in my career as a drummer, I had learned how to take my twitchy, awkward-but-still-somehow-works stutter-beat and turn it into another beat for my vocabulary, and I channeled much of that stuttering to my bass pedal in this song. I like how serious, in your face and emotional this song is, just the intro builds tension in the listener, for a full nearly 45 seconds before the singing comes in, and when the singing does start, the whole tone of the song instantly changes to a more sad pop sound, with a bouncy beat and harmonizing back-up vocals, then back to the tension, back to the sad pop, then into a dramatic bridge. The bass is such a backbone in this song, and saves it from being too wandering, Pat held it together. In many ways it is one of the most metal sounding songs on the fast parts, especially Scott's crazy, stretching, howling leads, (harkening back to his days as a metal kid who loved Black Sabbath and AC/DC) and more like Descendents or The Pixies on the sad pop parts. The outro is the most dramatic and epic we had ever done. It is most likely my favorite song on 'GRE', and certainly one of my favorite TP songs.



Wasted on You - Written by Pat 'Brown' Schmaljohn & Treepeople - Pat wrote this song, sang and played one of the guitars on it (in the breakdown on the choruses) as well as the bass. In my insecurity, I assumed the lyrics, (also penned by Pat) which criticize an unnamed person for being no fun and not wanting to come outside of their apartment to do anything in spite of his pleading, "...It was sunny out/It was a beautiful day/I asked you if/You wanted to play/You said no, you had to stay inside/Another good thing is passin' you by..." were about me! I found out later that it wasn't at all about me, but for a time I was kind of hurt by it (and my paranoia wasn't entirely misplaced, he did in fact later write a short story about a whiny character who went telemark skiing with friends...right after we had done that in real life! But I was indeed whiny on that trip). My feeling that the song was about me shows not only my insecurity at the time, but also illustrates how fragile our relationship had become. That said, I was not the only one who would ask this question of the  songwriter for any given TP song. It became a running in-joke among us; 'Bro, is this song about me?' Often we asked Doug this question, as his lyrics tended to be the most obscure in terms of their actual meaning, and especially in terms of whom he was talking about. The truth is clear all these years later, looking back as a mature man; Like all writers, Doug drew together various observations of different people and combined them into characters in the stories he told. Either way, the joke, 'Bro, is this song about me?' led to us covering the Carly Simon song, 'You're So Vain,' for its end of chorus tag line, "...I bet you think this song is about you/Don't you?/Don't you?...", though we renamed it to 'Flies in my Coffee' (a wordplay alteration from the original verse ending refrain, '...Clouds in my coffee/Clouds in my coffee...') This was put out on a limited release sampler on CZ Records after I had quit the band including other songs that were recorded with a different drummer. It is probably pretty hard to find. Again with the digression (reading my blog is just like talking to me!). The song itself is pretty straightforward power chord punk rock, and quite catchy. Since neither Scott or Doug were singing, they were able to have a lot of fun with their guitar parts, and I really enjoyed writing drum parts to such a straightforward song. Pat would go on to write songs for his own band in Boise when he moved back there called Hive (for which the aforementioned Anna played bass). More on that band later!



Stay - Written by Treepeople - I am crediting the whole band for songwriting on this song, as we all had our parts in it, and it is in fact probably the most collaboratively written TP song. Treepeople was a band which did do some collaborative writing, for me it was mostly my drum parts, but the main riff for the verse on this song I wrote on bass for a State of Confusion song that we were working on just before we broke up we and it carried over to TP. I believe Scott wrote the hardcore-ish chorus, over which Pat sang the lyrics that were carried over from the SOC version. At the time the song was written in SOC, we and our friends did a lot of sand-boarding (mentioned in a previous entry) and Pat was very skilled at it, and also employed the whole experience of sand-boarding and the nature of it as a metaphor for many things in his life through his lyrics. In this case he sang, in his signature voice full of barely subdued fury, "...Skin and blood/Hearts in hands/Diggin' through/The shifting sands..." The man had his very own poetry. The beat of the verses on this song was a bit of a break-through for me as a drummer, in that I played a beat that was half notes on the highhat, and the bass drum. The more I write about this, the more I realize how this band pushed me as a drummer into new territory and learning.



Chunks of Milk - Written by Scott Schmaljohn & Treepeople - Where do I start with this song? As I hear it here and there over the years, and especially after listening to it recently for writing this series on 'GRE', I have realized more and more what a breakthrough this song was for me as a drummer. The song structure has parts that are, at least as I see it, like acts in a play, moving from scene to scene, and this challenged me to come up with drum parts that fit the song not only musically, but emotionally as well, and to match this structure and Scott's wrenching, emotional singing. I learned about using subtlety on my cymbals, and a new world of accents came through, and also how to play sixteenth notes [oops, eighth notes, actually. Who the fuck do I think I was, Elvin Jones? ~ Now Wayne] with both hands on the high-hat as part of a beat. I was doing a few measures where I was only playing my bass pedal and my ride and crash cymbals, using light paradiddles. I have tried to relearn it and honestly, there was shit Young Wayne did that I can't remember or figure out (Damn KID!) 'Chunks of Milk' is, in my mind, one of my best performances on drums captured on tape, maybe the best. It takes a lot for me to say that, as I am pretty self-critical, or, as a current bandmate puts it, "Riddled with self-doubt." (Trust me, on 'GRE' I also still hear, 25 years later, every slight fuck up and every time I accidentally hit the drum mics, too). The songwriting on 'Chunks of Milk' is wonderfully complex for a Treepeople song, with 4 different interlocking parts, and a 3/4 time signature. The singing and phrasing of the lyrics goes with the beat of the verses, and has a bar sing along quality to it, especially when Scott wails '...Sow--ur [sour](chunks of milk)! Sooow-uuur! Sow--uuur! Sow-ur!" Pat plays solidly through this waltz, and Doug plays wide cords and meandering lead walks, as Scott plays almost folkish chords on the verses, and metal-ish chords on the more sinister, chorus bridgey thing (yes, that is a musical term...Now it is, anyway ; / ). On the chorus, Pat sings, "...It sticks in your throat now it's stuck in your gut/You wanna do somethin'/But you don't know what you can doooooo...." and Scott comes in singing backups on the '...doooooo...'  'The Brothers Schmaljohn', as we often referred to them, singing together, and it sounds rad, I think. And the lyrics are again about the thankless, endless grind of the working class; "...No more sleepin' late/No work, no pay/Tell me, what do I owe? What do I ooooowe?/What do I ooooowe?What do I ooooowe?..." And surprise! A big (though short) dramatic outro! I wonder why the hell we did that so much! I guess we thought it was cool. I think it is, sometimes, but I am just realizing after listening to it how often we did it. Ah well, we were kids! I will stop here, before this song description needs chapters...



Every Time When I Fall Down and My Head Hits the Floor Hard - Written by Doug Martsch & Treepeople - My least favorite TP song, so I don't have much to say about it. It is pretty standard indie rock, more so than any other song of ours at this time. It isn't a bad song, it's catchy, I like the stalls that are built into the verse, and I like the drum beats I wrote for it. The best parts of the song are the insane guitar parts by Scott and Doug, and the outro, which is actually pretty powerful.  



Trailer Park -  Written by Treepeople - One of the very few instrumental songs and only one of two using samples (the other being 'Size of a Quarter', two versions of which are on the first demo, 'No Mouth Pipetting' and the first ep, 'Time Whore', respectively). I really dig the arrangement on this tune, it is very dramatic, kind of film-score-ish. The samples in question were added by Steve Fisk, two crazy yelling radio preachers from Eastern Washington ranting, they appear in a few of his solo songs (his solo songs are all crazy and good, look them up on the ol' Youtube). As mentioned before, the bit o' trivia about this song is that at the time we recorded 'GRE' the band Soundgarden rehearsed at the studio weekly. They happened to stop by (everyone but Chris Cornell) and listened to us track this tune. [After writing this, I realized this is an instrumental song in all but one place (and of course minus samples, but I wasn't technically counting those), the bridge, where Pat sings, again, with barely subdued fury, '...You lied/You said it wouldn't be like this...'].

What a monster this entry ended up being! Tune in next time to read about the release and reception of 'GRE', Scott Schmaljohn's and Doug Martsch's take on 'GRE' and more input from friends of the band and fans.