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Wednesday, March 26, 2014

Music History, Part 22: The Early Seattle Years 1989-90

Disclaimer: Memory is a funny thing, and an elusive one. Meaning; I might have some of this wrong, as 1. My memory is not always accurate, like anyone and 2. It is from my perspective only. Any friends  who were there, feel free to correct me or add things I have missed. It helps! Also, no gossip on anyone here, it ain't about that. Personal details are on a surface level, and friends, girlfriends and others are re-named to respect their privacy. People in bands generally put their names out there on albums and in interviews anyway, and are not in the habit of staying anonymous, and therefore are named here. That said, anyone who is in the blog that wishes me not to use their name has only to ask.

Seattle Years Disclaimer: As I enter the Seattle years in this music blog, the above disclaimer goes double, because so much happened and there are so many details to cover in this 14 year period; so many shows, so many bands, so many friends and so much change in my life. As a result of this and the fact that the four of us who formed Treepeople found ourselves in the midst of a scene which attracted the eyes of the world 2 years after our arrival, I am bound to, hell, I will forget something. 

This means two things: I will be coming back to entries and adding things to them over the months following publication, and, that the part of the above disclaimer where I ask for help from people in keeping me honest and in remembering things is crucial to them. I thank anyone ahead of time who was there for helping me, and, I thank those who weren't there who may notice errors in dates or chronology. Yes, I have the Internet, but many bands, scenes and things I will cover did not receive the attention I feel they deserved and thus I will recall them mostly from memory, or rather, memories; mine and those of friends. And friends who were in bands which I do not mention, please don't take it personally, just remind me. I have created a monster in undertaking this blog, one which I am determined to ride until the end!

Lastly, as mentioned, this scene gained national attention, and thus, needless to say and as we all know in hindsight, many bands/people became famous, became rock stars, became admired by millions, etc and etc...This makes another part of my original disclaimer even more important. This memoir is intended to tell my story, from my perspective. I have no intention of creating a place where people can seek gossip about famous people. I write of my impressions of people, bands, and the Seattle scene from the '90s into the early 2000s. People who are my friends I protect fiercely, not because they are known, but because a symptom of being known is frequent intrusion into their lives at a level beyond what I feel is acceptable. Thank you for indulging me this disclaimer. Onward>>>

A band needs a place to practice...

Tad's girlfriend knew the guys in a local Seattle band called Blood Circus who needed another band to share in the costs of their jam space located in a part of town not far from the Boeing Air Field named 'Georgetown', and helped us get into the space by passing our name along. The space was in a narrow building on Airport Way, between some old taverns which seemed like they had been there since the late 1800s, one was called Jules Maes and is still there. At that time the only things located in Georgetown were industrial type businesses and a small neighborhood of homes (also still there). 

Across the street from the jam space was an old building, it looked to have once been a factory of some sort, and the original windows had been bricked up. It turned out that part of the building was merely a facade wall that had been preserved for historic purposes, and the rest of the building was occupied by Rainier Cold Storage & Ice. It turns out that this was once a brewery, Seattle Malting and Brewing Company (where Treepeople would later pose in front of for an article on us published in the local rock rag called 'Backlash' in 1991 - I will post this pic later in the story). 



A former brewery (Seattle Malting and Brewing Company) from the heyday of Georgetown south of Seattle. Much of the building was a facade. Treepeople rehearsed right across the street from this building. Photo retrieved from: 
Georgetown, when it was a city, was known for its breweries and saloons. It was annexed into Seattle in 1910 and is considered by most to be the oldest neighborhood in Seattle. Since the early 2000s, Georgetown has changed considerably. As the Wikipedia page on Georgetown states; "Georgetown has had a certain degree of a "scene" since the 1990s. In 2001, Industrial Coffee and Stella Pizza were both hosting live musical performances. The former folded, and the latter stopped hosting shows and changed its name to Stellar Pizza. Since that time, however, quite a few new bars and coffeehouses have opened in the neighborhood, plus a record store, a beer store, a barber shop, a bakery, a scooter shop, a "skin sanctuary" (which is to say, a waxing salon), a web design company, and an art gallery/recording studio. Laura Cassidy of the Seattle Weekly described the prevailing aesthetic: "Creatively employing the open, airy brick-walled spaces left behind by industry and manufacturing, and augmenting them with local art and 20th-century detritus, Georgetown's merchants consistently fashion warm, imaginative interiors: places you want to visit and never want to leave. Just walking through the streets you witness post-squat, industrial bohemian chic."  Also, Sub Pop records recently hosted their 'Jubilee' party there, celebrating 25 years (though they have been around a bit longer, it just sounded better and worked with the whole 'Jubilee' concept - typical Sup Pop hype-marketing) which I attended. It was fun but there were way too many people. It was a trip to see how much things had changed in Georgetown.

The rehearsal space was decent, and the Blood Circus guys were really nice to us. In the same building, located above us was a recording studio called 'Electric Eel', owned and operated by a guy named Zach, the bass player of a great pop/punk band called The Purdins, (the name came from some neighbors that a couple members of the band grew up next to). The Purdins quickly became one of our favorite Seattle bands, and is still one of my favorite bands in general. They played catchy, poppy tunes with a slight punk flavor to them. The singer, Tony Driscoll, wrote witty, ironic lyrics involving personal stories of loss and the day to day grind of life, and sang them with an amazing, well-projected voice full of legitimate emotion. 
The Purdins often performed wearing goofy outfits and put on a great live show. 





The Purdins doing their thing - Photo retrieved from:
 



Blood Circus, Treepeople's jam space roomies in the early '90s in Georgetown - Photo retrieved from:
 

We weren't as familiar with the Blood Circus guys, for whatever reason, maybe because we were jam space roomies, we didn't bond as much with them as we did with The Purdins. Their music was good; heavy metalish and kind of punk. They were one of the early bands to play the kind of music that would later be called 'grunge', and they definitely influenced later Seattle bands. We mostly saw each other when we showed up to jam during our allotted time as they were ending their rehearsal, and usually it was just Doug we saw (the drummer, a really great guy), who also collected rent from us. Later, the band Kill Sybil rehearsed in the room we were in as well, featuring Patty Schemel, who later drummed in the band Hole.

Jam neighbors/old friends

There were many other bands who practiced in this space. Right next door to us the excellent hardcore band Christ on a Crutch, featuring two of our friends from the Tri-Cities hardcore band Diddly Squat: Eric Akre on drums (who would later play drums in Treepeople after I quit and my replacement quit) and Nate Mendel on bass (later in the Seattle band Sunny Day Real Estate and who currently he plays bass in The Foo Fighters). More on Christ on a Crutch later. Also, our other friends from Tri-Cities, Paula Sen (the aforementioned 'Paula Fallout') and her boyfriend, Doug Pack, practiced in the same room in another excellent hardcore band called Whipped, the drummer of which, Drew Quinlan, would later play drums in a band I played bass in called Violent Green, (a band that will of course appear in the story later). Sadly, Drew passed away this year (cancer).

One thing that stands out in my memory about these Tri-Cities folks and our arrival on the scene in Seattle was that they all knew us as members of the Boise hardcore band State of Confusion, of which they were fans, and when they heard we had morphed into a 
punk/pop band called Treepeople, they were disappointed. Treepeople grew on them, however, and soon they were fans of this band as well. Paula actually put out our first 12 inch ep, as mentioned earlier.


A negative review
 
In 1989, we 'released' our first seven inch record, Important Things/Handcuffs/In My Head (see Part 20 for more details on this record, as well as scans of the covers). We sent it to various fanzines and rock magazines around the country and some overseas. This included the Seattle rock magazine called 'The Rocket', and by the Seattle rock magazine, I mean the Seattle rock magazine. At that time, getting in The Rocket was a good thing...usually. Not for us, though, at least the first time, unless of course you believe in that adage, 'there's no such thing as bad publicity'.

Grant Alden was the music reviewer for The Rocket and had the task of reviewing our 7 inch. It was a terrible review. Getting terrible reviews happens to the best of bands, we weren't so naive as to expect all our reviews to be shining, but this review wasn't about the music at all. In today's climate of music reviews, this critique may seem silly, but back then, most reviews actually mentioned the music, and used way less weird metaphors and attempts to be clever and make it all about the reviewer than is the way of things today.


One day I was browsing records at a new record shop by where I lived (Rebellious Jukebox) and I recognized Grant Alden doing the same. I introduced myself and struck up a conversation and brought up the review, and I told him I thought that it wasn't a fair assessment of the band in that it really didn't talk as much about the music as the fact that we were an out of town band that moved to Seattle. He had really made it seem like we were just the next band coming to try and capitalize on the music scene there. He had no idea what was coming in a couple short years when bands from Kansas and several friends would move there to 'make it'. And we were from Boise! The Northwest! Seattle was our back yard!

I don't think anyone had ever approached him about a review quite the way I did. I was respectful, I wasn't yelling at him or being unreasonable. I just let him know that I thought the review assumed a lot about the band and didn't really take the music into consideration. Either I made an impression on him, or, he gave the record another listen and wrote another, more positive review later. At the time, I found that very interesting and assumed it was because by the time the second review came out, there was a bit of a buzz about us. Only Grant himself can answer the question as to why he reviewed it again. He didn't seem like an asshole at all.


Adapting to the city


As I mentioned, I have always been a fan of bigger cities. Actually living in one was a whole new experience, and for the most part, I loved it. There were more people everywhere, of course. You had to plan for more time to do things, even grocery shopping, and of course you had to plan for traffic. Where my girlfriend and I, and Doug and his girlfriend lived was on East Thomas street, two blocks off of the main strip of Broadway, a strip where a lot of bars, restaurants, coffee shops and record stores were/are.

At that time, there wasn't quite the amount of foot traffic that there is today, but there was still quite a bit, and then it was sort of a place to be seen. One saw lots of leather, spikes, punk hair dos of various colors, and lots of men holding hands and kissing, which became normal to me very quickly. I may have mentioned this before in the blog, but even though I had gay friends in Boise, living in Seattle challenged what I previously thought to be an open mind and I became rapidly educated about gay people. In Boise, all of my gay friends were new wavers or punk rockers, and were very flamboyant, very 'out' (which was incredibly brave in Boise in the '80s) and since they were the only gay people I knew, I thought most gay people were that way. Seattle made me realize gay people were just...people. They were laborers and lawyers and doctors and whatever. Their sexuality didn't define them entirely, it was, as it is with heterosexuals, just part of who they were. And for them to come out was a brave thing to do in most of the world, because many people are small-minded, hateful and ignorant. In Seattle, especially on Capitol Hill, it was more of a gay safe-haven. I don't mean to say that gay people weren't discriminated against there, they certainly were, but far less than most US cities I have been in, and there was a higher quotient of out gay business owners. 


I was a tall, skinny, long-haired dude wearing Dickies work pants and a heavy wool flannel jacket I got at a thrift store, wandering around and checking things out. I must have looked scruffy, because panhandlers wouldn't ask me for money and would give me a nod, as if I were one of them. In fact, one time I came upon a group of three homeless guys who seemed to be pretty drunk. The most inebriated of them stuttered while trying to ask me for money, and his friend hit him and said, "Don't panhandle a panhandler!" The gray weather took some getting used to, but Seattle quickly became home. 


Next up: A slight shift backwards in time to a Boise venue that was important to Treepeople and to many other bands in the late '80s, two of which I want to profile in more detail; the Dirt Fishermen and Caustic Resin

Thursday, December 19, 2013

Music History, Part 21: The Early Seattle Years 1989-90

Disclaimer: Memory is a funny thing, and an elusive one. Meaning; I might have some of this wrong, as 1. My memory is not always accurate, like anyone and 2. It is from my perspective only. Any friends  who were there, feel free to correct me or add things I have missed. It helps! Also, no gossip on anyone here, it ain't about that. Personal details are on a surface level, and friends, girlfriends and others are re-named to respect their privacy. People in bands generally put their names out there on albums and in interviews anyway, and are not in the habit of staying anonymous, and therefore are named here. That said, anyone who is in the blog that wishes me not to use their name has only to ask.

Seattle Years Disclaimer: As I enter the Seattle years in this music blog, the above disclaimer goes double, because so much happened and there are so many details to cover in this 14 year period; so many shows, so many bands, so many friends and so much change in my life. As a result of this and the fact that the four of us who formed Treepeople found ourselves in the midst of a scene which blew up around us and attracted the eyes of the world just 2 years after our arrival, I am bound to, hell, I will forget something. 

This means two things: I will be coming back to entries and adding things to them over the months following publication, and, that the part of the above disclaimer where I ask for help from people in keeping me honest and in remembering things is crucial to them. I thank anyone ahead of time who was there, and, those who weren't there who have access to valid info, for helping me to correct errors in dates or chronology. Yes, I have the Internet, but many bands, scenes and things I will cover did not receive the attention I feel that they deserved and thus I will recall them mostly from memory, or rather, memories; mine and those of friends. Friends who were in bands which I do not happen to mention, please don't take it personally, just remind me. I have created a monster in undertaking this blog, one which I am determined to ride until the end!

Lastly, as mentioned, this scene gained national attention, and thus, needless to say and as we all know, many bands/people became famous, became rock stars, were/are admired by millions, etc and etc...This makes another part of my original disclaimer even more important. This memoir is intended to tell my story, from my perspective. I have no intention of creating a place where people can seek gossip about famous people, nor is it about 'name-dropping'. I write of my impressions of people, bands, and the Seattle scene from the '90s into the early 2000s. I protect those who are my friends fiercely because a symptom of being known is frequent intrusion into their lives beyond a level that I feel is acceptable. Thank you for indulging me this disclaimer. Onward>>>

The big pond calls...Treepeople uproots and heads west to the city

The Treepeople move ta Seeee-attle! Photo retrieved from:


The way I remember it (which, if you have been following this blog at all, you know may very well be wrong) was that I wanted to move to Seattle. I mean, I know that much is true for sure. My parents were dead, I didn't really know my siblings very well except one, and I had just been through an incredibly ugly break-up with my girlfriend [upon reflection, I have realized this was after the decision to move, as she was to move with me].

Was I willing to move without the band? Yes, I was, though I struggled with that, so I approached the guys about moving to Seattle, as a band. As it turned out (and this is the 'how I remember it' part), the guys were on the same wavelength and had also been thinking about moving to Seattle and discussing it with their respective mates. I am sure that none of this was out of nowhere. Most likely what happened was that we had discussed it here and there over time as at first a remote possibility, one that became more clear as the best next step. Why? We felt that, as musicians, between all the bands we had been in collectively, we had done most everything we could do in Boise. As well, we had excellent connections in Seattle.


As I mentioned in a previous entry, being in Seattle, recording there and getting a feel for the scene, making friends, had given us a new fire, and new goals. We were young, talented and making music people seemed to respond to. We had already sold several of our demos at a local, Seattle punk rock record store called 'Fallout', where an old friend, Paula Sen worked (then known by many as 'Paula Fallout') whom we met when SOC played in Tri-Cities. She worked there with the rock legend Tom Price of U-Men and Gas Huffer. Paula was playing bass in an excellent hardcore band called 'Whipped'. I assume we also started selling our single there prior to moving, but I am not positive. We may not have had them made yet.


I had a 1976, green Volvo 245 wagon like this named 'The Green Turtle' which towed much of our stuff across the desert and mountains when we moved to Seattle (and for years it came through as a camper and was a band vehicle for various bands). Photo retrieved from:


Us moving felt right. And to this day, I think it was, for me. I ended up living in Seattle for 14 years, and it was of course a great step for the band, no doubt about it. But the city didn't jibe as well with the others, and eventually, years later, I was the only one left there. Pat moved back briefly after moving back to Boise in the mid '90s. More on that later (I need to start writing down all these 'More on that laters'). All of them ended up seeing the world, and some still do, touring and playing music. So I was there in the wet hills, and they were living the dream, but...I am waaay ahead of myself now...



I said goodbye to my little house on N. 28th street in Boise, Idaho (above is a Google streetview shot of how it looks currently - the garage wasn't there before and the yard was full of fruit trees). I was pretty sure I had a dead room mate when I lived in this house.

I loaded up a U-Haul trailer hooked to my '76 Volvo wagon ('The Green Turtle', tank that it was) and said goodbye to my odd little house, which by then I was certain was haunted (I wrote a novel based on experiences I had while living there, among other things). 

As I packed up I saw my 80 year old neighbor, Chet. He waved me over and we chatted. He proceeded to tell me that a woman, a prostitute, had lived in the house I was moving out of with her son, and had murdered her boyfriend there. Well, that explained a lot. If he had told me when I was moving in, I would chalk everything I experienced in that house up to suggestion, but...that is all for another type of blog, or, you can read my novel, 'Voice of the Bone-fed Moon' if anyone ever publishes it (any takers??). 

Pat and I made a trip up to Seattle to secure an apartment for all of us. And by 'all of us' I mean a total of 9 people; The band plus 3 girlfriends, another friend who latched on to us, and a friend who was going to help us move and then hang out in Seattle for a couple months (this was Brad, who was the former bass player in Dissident Militia - see previous entries for more on this band - and the original singer in SOC).


This trip that Pat and I took was a big step because normally, we bickered a lot, but on this trip we got along very well. We had our goal in front of us. Later on, in the midst of conflict, we would reminisce and refer to this trip as proof that we could actually get along. 


Tad and his girlfriend graciously let us stay at their apartment while we looked at potential places to live. I wasn't keen on moving in with everyone all at once, but we didn't really have a choice. I had a good amount of money in the bank due to the inheritance, but I was very concerned about making it last as long as possible (this became a point of contention with Pat, justifiably, more on that later). 

Saying yes to The Refuzor House

Pat and I were pretty smart guys, but we were products of our environment. We grew up in Boise, and our experience renting apartments was largely based on how it was in Boise. Pat had lived in Santa Barbara as a college student, so he had a little more experience than I at renting away from home. We were naive and possibly in a little bit too much of a rush. It is true we did have a limited amount of time, but in retrospect, we should have cast our net much wider and looked at more places.

We ended up going with the bottom floor of a dumpy house on Capitol Hill behind a QFC store on Broadway (this QFC was just north of where it is now) that a slimy slumlord convinced us to rent. He owned the house next door as well, it was divided into tiny cubicles. Poor immigrants were crammed
into them like sardines. Our 'home' was then occupied by the slumlord's nephew, his nephew's wife, their infant, and 2 dogs. They were being kicked into the basement below us so we could have the place! A great way to make friends right off! 


We headed home with the good news.

We, all 9 of us, made the long drive over the desert and mountains and arrived at our new home. There were only two bedrooms. A couple of the girlfriends were very smart, savvy and 'grown ups', and thus wisely secured their own apartments before arriving in Seattle, and thus never moved into the hellhole (Doug and Pat were the lucky ones whose partners were on top of it, I, the unlucky one with no wiser-half).

                                                                               
My first 'bed' in Seattle (except mine was an old wooden one)

I had no actual room, but an 'area' in the front room, in the curve of a bay window. I had a cot for a bed and a cardboard wall. Zero privacy. When I was sitting on the toilet, I could see cockroaches scattering into a hole in the wall. A family lived above us and the father was a weed dealer. People were constantly knocking at our door and asking for him. "Upstairs," we would repeat over and over. The weed dealer family upstairs had a dog, a huge pit bull. He circled the roof, barking at the dogs of the slumlord's nephew, who circled on the ground, barking back. It was chaos, 24/7 (the QFC was actually 24/7 as well), so there was all kinds of foot traffic. Ah, big city livin'! I constantly had transgender people bumming cigarettes from me. I am not sure why. I had an approachable look about me, and maybe I looked like a smoker, though I have never been a one. I had to sadly inform them of this fact.

Later, we noticed old blood stains on the floor here and there. It turned out that the house had been a 'shooting gallery', which is a house where junkies live and shoot up. The occupants during its 'heyday' as a shooting gallery were the members of a fairly well-known, old-school punk band called 'The Refuzors', so the house was known as 'The Refuzor House' (it has long since been torn down, and is probably a condo by now...or a Starbucks).

The Refuzors were a pretty decent punk band, I came to find out years later. Check out this tune (w/slideshow):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDm15xTlSYA
 
Also, see Mike Refuzor on a silly network TV news spot on 'Punk' in Seattle (around '81 or '82):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzMeJMhhkSI

Workin' men

During this time, Scott secured a job working as a grunt for a construction contractor that Johnny (the singer from H-Hour) worked for. I was having bad luck finding a job, so I ended up applying there and getting a job as well. Suddenly, I was getting up at the ass-crack of dawn and serving as a taxi service for Scott and a couple other friends who also got jobs working for the same contractor. 

Scott soon got a better job delivering Subway sandwiches on a scooter. Doug and Pat scored jobs at the Kinkos on Broadway (now gone) and eventually Scott worked there too, after Pat quit and got a great job as an editor for a small local paper (these last details are a little further on in the tale).

I was terrible at the construction job. In the beginning I did some amazing things I had never done before, and would never want to do ever, like dig a huge-tired 4 wheeled crane out of the mud, chainsaw creosote logs off that had been pounded into the Earth for a building foundation, saw those logs into smaller pieces, and load them by hand into a tractor scoop (burning the skin on my arms)...pouring foundation cement in the rain, too broke for rain boots....jackhammering asphalt for 8 hours a day. Fun.

Once, they let me help nail down plywood to a
wall frame on the ground. I used a nail gun, but when we raised the wall, I had hit everywhere but the stud; The nails weaved around it like nail art. One carpenter, truly a lovely guy, a Buddhist, said to me, "You have no center." I quit soon after. 


I got a job washing dishes in an egg restaurant on Broadway called 'Egg-cetera' (I shit you not). It snowed that winter [for people not familiar with the weather in Seattle this sounds weird, but it rarely snows in winter there] and I remember looking at it fall from inside the warm kitchen with my hot coffee and free breakfast, having a new-found appreciation for an indoor job, and thinking about those poor suckers pouring foundations in the snow.

Scott and his girlfriend got an apartment in the same building as Pat and his girlfriend, also on Capitol Hill. It was time for me to figure out a different living situation.

Wayne gets a roomie...

A friend of many mutual friends (including my ex) was a Boise woman who had just moved to Seattle from Los Angeles. She and I had become friends in Boise just before I moved and she had called me from LA around that time. She hated LA and was trying to figure out what to do next, so I suggested Seattle, as she had friends from Boise who lived there. She moved in with them, not far from where we lived. I visited her and found she was in her own little hell there.


About 6 or 7 of her friends were packed into a dark, basement apartment, with a few cats that were riddled with fleas. You could see the fleas hopping up from the carpet and after only a few minutes, you could feel the bites mounting on your ankles and shins. My friend had sores all up her legs from bites. Add the constant smell of dirty cat litter and pee and poop to this scene. Between the two of us, we needed to escape, so we ended up as room mates, and eventually we became a couple, for 7 years...but that is for later and really not much to tell even then, as I am protecting her privacy.


The apartment building
in which we lived was located in what was then a kind of shitty area, where lots of druggies lived in tenament housing up the street (Summit off of Pine). I often saw pissed off crack dealers walking down the street, yelling to themselves, or people completely whacked out on something wandering around like zombies. A couple nights I heard shots outside the window. Now that area is hipster heaven, of course.




The Summit Arms apartments, my first 'real' Seattle apartment for 6 months, where my roomie became my girlfriend, which reminds me of a joke: What do you call a musician without a girlfriend? 'Homeless'

The apartment itself was dim, the walls were painted gray, and though it was on the second floor, it felt like a basement apartment, as the kitchen and a nearby bedroom that had windows faced walls a couple feet away, and my bedroom windows and the windows in the living room faced a Mercedes dealer and repair shop parking lot. It was a depressing place, especially in the winter when it was as gray outside as the paint on the walls. We only lasted 6 months there, but I had a four track tape machine with only two working tracks, and I recorded some interesting songs on it (maybe I will digitize and post them here) and wrote some decent poems, and, made some pretty cool collage art during those 6 gray months. We later got a place on East Thomas next to an apartment that Doug and his girlfriend lived in, owned by the same company.

I adapted to city life very quickly. I am on the fence about reincarnation, but some things make me believe, one of them being that we have yearnings out of nowhere that seem based on deep memories, memories that should not be readily accessible from the time frames that we actually live in. I never felt totally at home in Boise, and at the time, something about the city had always attracted me, and when I lived in Seattle, I felt like I had come home, at least for awhile. Seattle became my second home town. But that is later. Even though I and others adapted pretty well, we were still Boise Boys in the Big City. We always used to repeat that old saying which applies to any town but sounds so great for us because of the alliteration; "You can take the boy out of Boise, but you can't take the Boise out of the boy." We still had a lot to learn.


Next: Bad press on our 7 inch in THE rock mag in Seattle (that later became good press, read on to find out how) a straight-edge teenage Treepeople fan club, and...Playing pop-punk in a retro '70s rock scene