Showing posts with label Tad. Show all posts
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Sunday, June 13, 2021

Music History Part 45: 'Missed Bits' (go to next entry if you want to continue with the sequential progression of the blog)

Disclaimer: Memory is a funny thing, and an elusive one. Meaning; I might have some of this wrong, as 1. My memory is not always accurate, like anyone and 2. It is from my perspective only. Any friends  who were there, feel free to correct me or add things I have missed. It helps! Also, no gossip on anyone here, it ain't about that. Personal details are on a surface level, and friends, girlfriends and others are re-named to respect their privacy. People in bands generally put their names out there on albums and in interviews anyway, and are not in the habit of staying anonymous, and therefore are named here. That said, anyone who is in the blog that wishes me not to use their name has only to ask.

Missed Bits

What is 'missed bits'? It is what I am calling entries where I add things I missed in the previous entries. As I have often whined about in this blog, there is no way I will be able to remember and cover everything that happened in my years as a semi-professional musician (emphasis on the 'semi'!) and so often I remember things or someone reminds me of something, either via email or something comes up in a conversation, or, when doing research. 

Lunch with Jello


I mean the punk singer, not the undelicious gelatin-based desert. In the '80s, the Dead Kennedys played a show at The Crazy Horse saloon in Boise, Idaho, after it was booted from the Boise State University Ballroom (as it was called then, now it is called the 'Jordan Room') where it was originally booked (someone higher up was not pleased, so they pulled the old 'you need $1 million of insurance' thing, that is, setting a number they knew could not be achieved, a common tactic). I didn't get to see this show, nor did any of my bandmates in State of Confusion. After the show, I sent Jello an SOC record. 

Flash-forward to the late '80s, when Jello Biafra (singer of Dead Kennedys) was doing a speaking tour, and spoke at none other than the Boise State University Ballroom. He remembered how the DK's were booted and made it a point to return and speak there. My girlfriend at the time had a roommate with a baby who wanted Jello's autograph for the baby (not sure why, I am pretty sure the baby didn't know who he was!). So my girlfriend, her roommate and her baby and I approached Jello onstage after the lecture (which was quite good, very political). I mentioned I used to be in SOC and had sent him a record, asked if he received it. He remembered this (not surprisingly, he is an avid record collector and it was/is a very rare record, with hand silk-screened covers, and only 1,000 of the vinyl were pressed) and he said, "I was wondering if any of you SOC guys would show up tonight!" We talked a bit and he said he was going to be in town for one more day and he asked if I could show him around town, where the cool places to eat were and the cool record stores. I of course said, "Sure."

I received a phone call from Jello about 9 am, and he said "You have got to come rescue me from this hideous corporate hotel." I picked him up and took him to the Record Exchange (still there, still cool, and at the time was the only place in town then to get cool records). We went to a nice little cafe in the Hyde Park neighborhood (Nina Mae's) where we had a fascinating discussion. He was smart, interesting, politically educational and courteous. I had a great day with him. We said goodbye and I took him back to his hotel. 

He was to catch a flight home to SF that night, but it was canceled (if I remember correctly) and he was checked out of the hotel and stuck at BSU. He called and asked if I minded taking him to the airport. I didn't mind. I don't remember our conversation on the drive (it was more than likely about punk music) but we said our goodbyes, and I haven't spoken to him since. However, my next girlfriend did, years after this, and it was a strange instance of synchronicity (well, I suppose they are all strange).

Flash forward again to the mid '90s (and take note that this part of the 'bit' is ahead of the sequential timeline in the blog thus far, so it will appear again there). I was living in Seattle, had recently quit Treepeople (a band that most members of SOC were in) and was playing in a few bands (Violent Green, Halo Benders, and Faintly Macabre') and my girlfriend (a different one than previously mentioned) was living in Bellingham, Washington (about an hour and a half north of Seattle) going to college  at Western Washington University. Her roommate was in charge of setting up lecturers on lecture circuits to speak at Western, and Jello was scheduled to do so, and was soon arriving at the airport. My girlfriend's roommate said she was unable to pick Jello up, so she asked my girlfriend if she could do it, and she was able to.

She happened to be wearing a Treepeople shirt when she picked Jello up. She was no hardcore punk fan, she knew who Jello was, of course, but he was no big deal to her (she wasn't easily impressed in general, to her credit). When Jello saw the Treepeople shirt, he said, "Treepeople! A friend of mine is in that band!"
My ex: "Who?"
Jello:"Wayne Flower?"
My ex: "Get the fuck OUT! (she exclaimed in the manner of the character Elaine from Seinfeld). That's my boyfriend!"
Life is weird, indeed.

Musical Janitors

In the late '80s, Doug Martsch and I formed a side project from our then current band Treepeople called Musical Janitors (as we were both janitors at the time). It was an opportunity for Doug to play some covers he loved that wouldn't have worked as Treepeople covers, and some original instrumentals, all songs he played on an acoustic guitar. I played bass (as I had in the band that morphed into Treepeople, State of Confusion (SOC) and as I am really more of a bass player than drummer at the end of the day). Doug's then girlfriend, mentioned previously in the blog, who bought Doug a guitar and helped pay for our self-released first 7 inch, Laurie Samuelson, sang on one cover, Gigantic, by The Pixies, and it sounded fantastic, she nailed it. I will forever regret not getting even a boombox recording of Musical Janitors, it was really fun. 

 

Sitarist Ashwin Batish

We played a handful of cafe shows and one trippy show we landed at the above-mentioned Boise State University Ballroom with none other than Ashwin Batish, the world famous sitarist. We met him just before the show and hung out with him in his limo. He was very kind to us, and simply amazing to watch perform. He started his performance by playing and explaining tabla drums and what each sound meant, and worked his way through how those rhythms worked in the sitar playing. By the end he was playing Slayer-like leads on the sitar! It was impressive. But the set-up was really awkward for us when we opened before him as there were chairs in rows for the audience and everyone was dressed up and really taking themselves way too seriously. It was the stiffest vibe from a crowd I have ever experienced as a performer (and I have played music for a Shakespeare play before). But that was it, we may have done another cafe show but I think we only played maybe 5 times total and bagged it. A nice little chapter in my life as a musician. There was one photo of Musical Janitors that I remember, long gone, I assume.

Treehouse 


 



 

 

 

 

Photo retrieved fro the Treehouse Facebook page

 

Treehouse was a band from Olympia, Washington that Treepeople crossed paths with, and you may be thinking, 'Well, yeah, Tree themed bands all know each other, right?' ; ) but in fact the connection was through producer Steve Fisk, who had produced records by them (Fisk had also produced the band Screaming Trees; Thus the reason I gave him a baseball cap I found at a thrift store that said 'Tree Service' on it!). We played some great shows with Treehouse, their music was very cool, heartfelt rock with an indie flavor and a bit of a '60s rock flavor as well, with great grooves and hooks. They were all great musicians and many of them wrote the tunes, as I remember it. About 5 years ago, when I was still on Facebook, I had reached out to a member, Steve, and got some photos, but I have no idea where they all are now! I will post more here as I find them, and of course, anyone who has any email them to me (or videos, songs, anything): waynerayflower@gmail.com.

What I did find from that exchange was a flyer and a photo from a great show in Olympia that we played with Treehouse called Treestock (of course!) in 1991. The bands played on the back of a flatbed truck. It was pretty cool, a great memory for the books in my time in Treepeople

 

         Treepeople playing at Treestock, Olympia, Washington, 1991                          


I also found a Treehouse performance on a cable access TV show from 1990: Treehouse live on TCTV, 1990 


TAD, God's Balls 



I was remiss in earlier entries when speaking of my old friend and friend/ally to the bands I was in (State Of Confusion and the band it morphed into after, Treepeople) , Tad Doyle, of the band TAD, to not mention the groundbreaking and influential debut LP, God's Balls that came out in 1989, and which hit Seattle like a sledgehammer and which Trouser Press aptly called "Impressively punishing." I remember Tad telling me how he got the name for the record (and I wish I could tell you about it, but when I did so in a previous version of this blog entry, it caused it to be flagged as inappropriate by someone - so I am self censoring here in hopes that they will re-post it). It cannot be overstated how much this record influenced the music in Seattle at the time, Treepeople included. 

Editing Treepeople LP 'Gre' (pronounced 'Gree', acronym for Guilt, Regret, Embarrassment) on an AMS Audiophile digital music editor at Music Source

When I was writing the entries detailing the recording session for the Treepeople LP, 'Guilt, Regret, Embarrassment' I left out one little detail, not a big one, but it was something of its time that impressed us as a band then. The record was recorded in 1990, before digital editing or Pro Tools were prevalent, but producer Steve Fisk did edit it digitally in a way after it was mixed down to reel to reel tape using a machine called an 'AMS Audiophile.' This technology allowed for cross-fading songs from one into another, which we put to good use. I have a memory of all of us in the band being at the post production studio where Fisk worked and used the machine, and seeing the songs as bright green digital WAV forms on a screen, and thinking it was total wizardry!

Thursday, March 23, 2017

Music History Part 35 - Life After Treepeople

Disclaimer: Memory is a funny thing, and an elusive one. Meaning; I might have some of this wrong, as 1. My memory is not always accurate, like anyone and 2. It is from my perspective only. Any friends  who were there, feel free to correct me or add things I have missed. It helps! Also, no gossip on anyone here, it ain't about that. Personal details are on a surface level, and friends, girlfriends and others are re-named to respect their privacy. People in bands generally put their names out there on albums and in interviews anyway, and are not in the habit of staying anonymous, and therefore are named here. That said, anyone who is in the blog that wishes me not to use their name has only to ask.

Seattle Years Disclaimer: As I enter the Seattle years in this music blog, the above disclaimer goes double, because so much happened and there are so many details to cover in this 14 year period; so many shows, so many bands, so many friends and so much change in my life. As a result of this and the fact that the four of us who formed Treepeople found ourselves in the midst of a scene which blew up around us and attracted the eyes of the world just 2 years after our arrival, not to mention the 12 years I played music following that, I am bound to, hell, I will forget something.

This means two things: I will be coming back to entries and adding things to them over the months following publication, and, that the part of the above disclaimer where I ask for help from people in keeping me honest and in remembering things is crucial to them. I thank anyone ahead of time who was there, and, those who weren't there who have access to valid info, for helping me to correct errors in dates or chronology. Yes, I have the Internet, but many bands, scenes and things I will cover did not receive the attention I feel that they deserved and thus I will recall them mostly from memory, or rather, memories; mine and those of friends. Also, friends who were in bands which I do not happen to mention, please don't take it personally, just remind me. I have created a monster in undertaking this blog, one which I am determined to ride until the end!


Lastly, as mentioned, this scene gained national attention, and thus, needless to say and as we all know, many bands/people became famous, became rock stars, were/are admired by millions, etc and etc...This makes another part of my original disclaimer even more important. This memoir is intended to tell my story, from my perspective. I have no intention of creating a place where people can seek gossip about famous people, nor is it about 'name-dropping'. I write of my impressions of people, bands, and the Seattle scene from the '90s into the early 2000s. I protect those who are my friends fiercely because a symptom of being known is frequent intrusion into their lives beyond a level that I feel is acceptable. Thank you for indulging me this disclaimer.


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My other blogs: Short Story Long - (Top of mind, conversational, formal essays, photo essays, etc.) Artwork, Poetry


Smells Like 'What the Fuck?'

In an earlier post, I talked about how I was a dishwasher at a restaurant on Capitol Hill in Seattle in '91, a really cool place called 'The Ritz', which was a meat and potatoes kind of joint frequented by mostly older, white, gay men, who, in terms of their tastes, were very much like most older, white straight men; they liked their prime rib and steak, booze, good wine, cigars, mahogany wood trim and red leather seats in the booths. I bonded with the Samoan, lesbian chef who ran the kitchen. I was treated well, she even made me an 'honorary lesbian', half-jokingly (I was honored). I got the job because Scott Schmaljohn had cleaned the restaurant after hours for extra cash for a while, heard they were hiring and told me about it.



Current business occupying the space where The Ritz Cafe' was in the '90s, now (if it is still there) called 'Coastal Kitchen'. Next door was a cool, old school book store you can still see the sign for in this photo. It's probably a Starbucks now ; )
Image retrieved from:
 
One night in 1992, I was in the kitchen doing food prep to help the cooks out and we were listening to the local commercial pop radio station called 'The Kube' when the Nirvana song 'Smells Like Teen Spirit' from their album 'Nevermind' came on. I was shocked. "Is this...is this Nirvana?" I asked my boss. She shrugged. "This is crazy," I remarked. And at the time, it really was. That barrier had never been breached by alternative bands. The unwritten rule was; 'Alternative bands = college radio play'. 'Commercial pop bands = commercial radio play'. But of course Nirvana had just been signed to the major label Geffen, who worked hard to push them into the mainstream with muscle they could leverage on radio stations. Also, my previous band had just played with Nirvana, (as covered last entry) and everyone bought all their merchandise in a flash and scurried to put on their Nirvana shirts right there at the show, so it wasn't a total surprise. But it was certainly unexpected.



 Screenshot from Billboard archive at:

For musicians playing in the Seattle scene this caused quite a stir. This was an era where New Kids on the Block and Michael Bolton were still a force on pop radio, to give context. I won't bother going into the whole history of Nirvana's rise to fame, it is well documented everywhere (even in previous entries in this blog). 

Whether members of the Seattle scene liked Nirvana or not, most musicians I knew felt a bit possessive of the band, and especially of Kurt Cobain. Since the days when Tad Doyle and his band TAD took Nirvana under his wing for Nirvana's first European tour in the late '80s, they (Nirvana) had become more and more popular, and we were proud of that, and of the fact that Kurt wasn't abandoning his punk rock roots (as I have mentioned a few times on this blog) and was a thorn in the side of the mainstream music industry, or maybe a rock in their shoe is a more appropriate metaphor. We considered him one of our own.

Kurt and Tad having some fun

Many of my friends were friends with Kurt (one of whom told me "None of us really knew Kurt", referring to the intentional shroud of bullshit that Kurt surrounded himself with, most of the legends you hear of came from this tale-spinning) so it felt personal to me, watching this all unfold, hearing unfiltered stories of how Kurt and the band were handling the shift. But no one foresaw how big they would become. We suddenly had to share Nirvana and Kurt with the world. It was kind of like we had this special brother who could tap into raw human emotion and release it through that incredible voice, and we were protective of him, even if some among us didn't know him, or even like his music. Nirvana's rise seemed to happen over night, it took us by surprise, and then, the sleepy little bubble of the Seattle music scene was about to burst, and many of us were not very happy about it, while at the same time being proud of the recognition, which was conflicting and confusing. This attitude, at least for me and most of my friends, was a hold-over from the punk rock ethos, and having the impossible expectation of being able to pick and choose who was worthy to listen to our music, or music that we found important. It seems to me that Kurt felt that way also.

'We were no slouches, but we had friends in the right places...'

Compared to a lot of bands (especially Seattle bands), Treepeople led a fairly charmed existence in some ways, I will admit, and realization of this came only after years and distance from those times. We just happened to be, by twists in fate, connected to some key people in the Seattle scene, especially Tad Doyle, Paula Sen and Chris Takino, who helped us out quite a bit. This is not in any way to discount our hard work or talent also being a major part of it, but I had some friends back in those days point this out and I kind of scoffed at them, I believe. I can understand their perspective more now. 

That said, as I stated, it was just happenstance, in many ways, that the Seattle scene would blow up right after we moved there and that it had strong Boise roots to it, and that we got on a killer Dinosaur Jr./Nirvana show that just happened to be 6 months prior to Nirvana rocketing upward. Nobody could have predicted or arranged all that. It just happened.  


We got that killer show in Portland because of Chris Takino, but also because we had generated some buzz and a reputation, and had been plugging away self-promoting and gigging for 5 years in 3 bands before we relocated to Seattle, and we continued that work ethic in the new band there. I guess one could say; we were no slouches, but we had friends in the right places. And that is just how this stuff works, sometimes. I would also add that Chris Takino was a man of good taste, and one who had a solid reputation among very respected people in the indie music industry, so he got us on that show because he thought we were good, and he wouldn't have risked his reputation putting a band forward had he not believed in them/us. Hell, we met him because he wanted to write an article on us, because he liked what we were doing. I will leave it at that.







Life After Treepeople


Artwork by Scott Schmaljohn from the Treepeople 7 inch record, 'Makin' the D' (Slightly altered by the author)

It was quite an adjustment for me to get used to not being in Treepeople, or in a band at all (for a short time, anyway, with no knowledge of what the future held). And Scott, Pat and Doug wasted no time in getting a replacement drummer, Tony Dallas Reed, a local Seattle musician who played in a band called Twelve Thirty Dreamtime. I believe he played guitar and sang in that band (currently he has a cool band called Mos Generator, check them out) but he was/is a very talented multi-instrumentalist and easily fit the drummer role in Treepeople. I will be publishing Tony Reed's perspective on joining the band next entry.

I have written in this blog about how being in a band is a lot like being in a relationship/marriage, and this fact became real when I realized that hearing Treepeople already had a replacement drummer for me about a month after I quit felt very much like how it felt when I had broken up with a woman and found out they were already seeing someone else. 

I agreed to let the band use my PA system and my drum kit for a while. I think Pat was using my Peavey bass amp held over from when I played bass in State of Confusion as well, but now that I think about it, I am pretty sure he bought it from me outright when we started Treepeople. I have a vague memory that they bought my PA, and offered to buy my drums, but I declined; they were my babies (I still have them today). So I owned nearly half of the equipment they were using, which I felt a little weird about, but I didn't see the harm in them using it for a while (they used my drum kit on the first tour they did in '92). They needed it because they hit the ground running, but at the end of 1992, I wanted my drum kit back, and I had my brother come with me to Georgetown to pick it up as a safeguard, in case Pat and I got into it, or there was resistance. It was indeed awkward, but a 'peaceful transition', so to speak.

Part of 'hitting the ground running' was Treepeople recording a new ep with their new drummer and combining it with a remixed version of the 'Time Whore' ep we released in '90 (as covered in a previous entry, Fisk had to mix the 'Time Whore' ep again, as the pressing plant lost the master tape of the mix that had been produced by Jack Endino). The two eps were released together as a double, Steve FIsk produced ep/lp called 'Something Vicious For Tomorrow', which CZ Records released. I obtained a pre-release cassette copy of it from Doug, and I remember being very impressed with it, especially the songs 'It's Allright Now Ma' (one of the most punk Treepeople songs I had heard, at least since 'Transitional Devices' on the 'GRE' lp), in which the guitar playing, especially Scott's hammering metalish leads, floored me, and 'Funnelhead', which brought back memories of how we used to half-joke and ask the songwriter, "Is this song about me, Bro?" (covered in a previous entry) in that I assumed some of the lines were about me. I don't know if they are, I never asked, and most likely, they are not. The shift in lyrical content, to my ears, was toward more personal politics, and overall, the themes covered seemed more bitter in tone than the trademark melancholy of the work we had done up to that point, when I was in the band (even the title of the new ep was more bitter). I could only think, at the time, with everything that had just happened being so fresh, that this tension had something to do with our recent, tense parting. But my view of this is, of course, incredibly biased. 


 Mike Scheer's awesome and disturbing artwork for the double ep by Treepeople called 'Something Vicious For Tomorrow' which included a previously released ep, 'Time Whore' ~

Also included on the ep was the cover of The Smiths song 'Big Mouth Strikes Again' that we had been playing toward the end of my time in the band. As mentioned before, The Smiths were a big influence on Treepeople and especially on Doug, who helped me, Scott and Pat to understand how good their music was. We had really nailed this cover and made it our own while still being faithful to the original, as we had done with pretty much any of the limited covers we did, and the version on the new ep sounded great, too, I thought. Joseph Neff put it this way in his review of the record on The Vynil District: "...But most interestingly of all there’s the cover of The Smith’s “Big Mouth Strikes Again”, which succeeds with flying colors and against strong odds since in my estimation nearly all loud/heavy adaptations of Smith’s material trample the essence of the source material. Instead, the qualities of “Big Mouth…” points to Martsch’s later proclivity for indulging in wide ranging and unexpected cover material..." I would add that this was actually a Treepeople proclivity first!
See entire review here (better written than most reviews):


When your ex's new partner isn't the asshole you'd pictured...

I put aside any bitterness or weirdness about my recently leaving Treepeople and committed to sitting down during a time when I had the apartment to myself, and listened to 'Something Vicious For Tomorrow'. I of course was very focused on the drums at first. And I was, as I mentioned, impressed. T Dallas Reed (as he was known then) had a style that synced with Scott, Pat and Doug very well, and he kept true to my quirky way of drumming to the guitars. The music was fierce, but also embodied the trademark, aforementioned melancholy, as in the song 'Liquid Boy'. The title song, 'Something Viscous For Tomorrow,' is probably my least favorite song of Scott's, to be honest, but I can't deny that the timing of the record, the name of the song, how I felt when I first heard it, made me incredibly biased. That said, it has some pretty good, metalish hooks, and I should add that I held this song up, perhaps unfairly, next to Scott's excellent songwriting on 'GRE'. The truth is, no songwriter continually cranks out excellent songs. Scott had many great TP songs to come, and his current songwriting in his band The Hand is outstanding.

So this part was, to continue the earlier, 'band as romantic relationship' metaphor, the part after the breakup where you run into your ex with his/her new partner, and you really want to hate the new person, but you can't because they are in actuality pretty cool. And this is confusing and frustrating at first. But you get over it. And I did, mainly because I never regretted my decision, also like how when you break up with someone whom you actually loved, so the separation is painful, but also right, because you weren't happy in the relationship, and also you truly wish the best for your ex. 

A New Job, a New Band

I nursed my wounds for a year or less, got a job working at a bagel joint with a great reputation, called Spot Bagel, (originally started in the Wallingford neighborhood) after my job at The Ritz fizzled when the new owner tried to make the menu healthy and banned smoking (this was well before the sweeping change when states/cities began outlawing smoking in certain areas) and effectively killed the business (if he would have waited a decade, he would have done well!). Spot Bagel was a beloved Seattle business, low key and hippy dippy, an ultra left style business, as many small businesses were in the Pacific Northwest then. But they were under new executive management, which would prove to be a bad thing in a very short time, but I had no way of knowing that. I was glad to not be a dishwasher, which was the only type of job (outside of my failed stint in construction) I had been able to get in Seattle up to that point. I was hired for the new location that was about to open, located inside a mini mall area in a new condo (the Newmark Building, still there) built right next-door to the famous Pike Place Market, where I had worked only a few years prior at the Soundview Cafe'. As with most of my jobs in Seattle at the time, it too would end in utter chaos. More on that later.

Right around this time, Drew Quinlan, the drummer of the hardcore band Whipped, (see previous entries) said that he had been jamming with a local songwriter, a woman named Jenny O'lay, who had played for a brief time in the legendary, unique Olympia band, Some Velvet Sidewalk, and he wondered if I wanted to try playing bass with them and see how it went, and maybe we could form a band. I am sure I said "Yes!" before he even finished asking. Thus began my time playing with the band that would eventually be named Violent Green.

I have no memory of our first rehearsals specifically, but I remember instantly liking Jenny's unique songwriting and guitar playing styles, which were kind of folksy at the time, and her incredible, emotional voice, easily on par with Kurt Cobain's in terms of intensity and rawness when she screamed, but she could also sing in a straightforward, folk style. We began rehearsing regularly, right away. My post Treepeople journey had begun, and my life as a musician would never be the same.